UFOs and Strange Disappearances at this Mysterious Mountain

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A mountain of mysteries, such as an alleged ancient alien base, strange disappearances, UFO sightings, bizarre creature sightings, and so much more. Today, we're talking about Mount Shasta. Hello and welcome to this episode of Mysteries with a History. We will be taken on a wild ride into the unknown, the strange, and the mysterious. (00:33) Like you, I have questions, and like you, I want answers. And with each episode together, we will peel away the layers to look for the truth. I'm going to bring in my co-host, Jimmy Church of Faded Black Radio. Jimmy, happy Thursday. How's it going over there? Oh, man. How you doing? How you doing? That echo was me. (00:59) Did you hear it? No. No. You didn't hear that? See, that's weird. Maybe everybody else did. It doesn't matter. How you doing? I made it. Do you have any idea what the crazy day I have? And it's so much fun. So much fun. I did the breaking news. I'm on with you. I have fade to black tonight. My car is packed. (01:35) Dry cleaning. Got my hair cut. Everything. And tonight I'll be at the Conscious Life Expo. What a trip. Just like, and, and we get to do this show today on Mount Shasta. I'm, I'm, I'm so excited about this. I'm so excited. And, uh, uh, yeah, well, you know what? I'm just gonna, I have to ask why, why Mount Shasta? Why now? This one's a really good one. (02:09) Just because we've touched on Mount Shasta before, but we've never done an entire show. And I feel like it needs one just because so much has happened there and is still happening there. And also, California in itself is a very populated state. It's a very vacation place to go. And I think it'd be great to cover this for everyone, including myself, including you to say, you know what? One of these days, some of us have to go to Mount Shasta and see it for ourselves. (02:39) Don't you think? It's beautiful. It's beautiful. And the town, Mount Shasta, McLeod, McLeod, McLeod, McLeod, that area, there's only about, we'll get into all of this, but the town itself, it's very small for as famous as a destination place as it is. And, Christine, I don't know if you've been there, but when you're driving up the 5th, you know, heading right there at the Oregon border. (03:14) It's right, it just dominates. It's just, it's huge. And you would think that because of it being a destination and so famous, a very famous place, that it would be more populated. You pull into town, you're like, where is everybody? There's only about 3,000 people that live there. And that's it. (03:42) And the town itself is actually very, very small. That's what you see when you're driving up. And it's absolutely breathtaking. Glaciers, it's always got snow, and it's right there. It's beautiful. But it's shocking when you pull into town. There's no hotels, right? A couple of restaurants. (04:08) There's houses. But it's very sparsely populated. And then, of course, not far from here is lots of Bigfoot and things like that. And it's not too far from here. The Patterson Gimlin film was shot over on the coast heading west. But yeah, yeah, it's a beautiful place. Just breathtaking. Well, California in of itself is just a wacky state in so many aspects, but there's a lot of mysteries to it. (04:38) And for those that are interested to know more about California specifically, we have done two shows on the mysteries of California if you're interested. And Dennis, thank you so much for becoming a YouTube member. I really appreciate that. So let's get into, I think you're going to start off near the beginning when it comes to Mount Shasta. (04:55) And that's looking at Native American legends and lore, because they have some very profound stories, but also profound beliefs in and around that area. And it's a very sacred place in the traditions and legends of several Native American tribes, including Shasta, Klamath, and Maudik as well. hopefully I said that one right and so these tribes have long revered the mountain as a spiritual center a place where the physical and the supernatural worlds converge and we're going to be covering a few of those (05:30) stories but among some of the most well-known legends is the story of skel and lao which depicts a dramatic battle between the spirit of the sky and the spirit of the underworld with mount shasta serving as the battleground Now, when it comes to mountains and Native Americans here in the United States, A lot of them, if not nearly all of them, have stories related to gods and in many respects have stories related to battles or have it be a type of haven or sanctuary. (06:03) And in this case from Mount Shasta, it's no exception. You have a very intriguing story behind it. Now, to be fair, natives have just amazing legends across the United States that is definitely worth a listen, worth a read. as well. But the tales passed down from generation to generation speak of Mount Shasta as a dwelling place of the great spirit and a gateway to other dimensions where beings of light and guardians of the earth offer protection and guidance, but at the same time, kind of, in a sense, ward off bad people, evil spirits as well, (06:41) because there's been a handful of more than a handful to be fair, of very strange disappearances in Mount Shasta. But also, according to the Hopi lore, it's the dwelling place of the lizard people. And then you just have various Native American tribes that have just deemed overall that mountain, that mountain range as sacred, believing it to be sacred. (07:07) inhabited by invisible beings, by light beings, and by physical beings as well. The origins of this, and we'll back up just a little bit here, because Mount Shasta is an active volcano. That is one of the craziest parts about Mount Shasta and its history. So when you look at Skel and Laos, there were these tribes, and there were a lot of tribes, the five freeway that I mentioned earlier, that follows the original indigenous trail that went up in between the mountains, okay? And that was a trade route. (07:58) And so as the legends go, the two gods were throwing flags flaming rocks at each other, right? And so now is that describing lava? Is that describing an eruption? Is that where the story comes from? Don't know. But historically speaking, if we back up, let's back up a little bit to the origins of these stories. (08:26) It is an active volcano. It's 14,000 feet tall, by the way. It's pretty tall. It has four overlapping dormant volcanic cones that have built a complex shape, including the summit. It's got lava tubes. Again, going back to the lizard people or the underground cities, is it lava? Uh, tying into that mystery that is there, there's a pretty crazy underground cave system. (08:58) Um, uh, The peak itself, there's two. The second one, which is the volcanic, it's called the Shastina. It's actually the fourth highest peak in the area, following Mount Shasta itself. But that's how high those two peaks are that you're looking at here. There are seven named glaciers, Whitney, Bolum, Hotlam, and Wintun. (09:27) So we have that. But the oldest known human settlement in the area dates back 7,000 years. That's interesting. In the 1920s, Native American tribes who lived within a view of Mount Shasta included. You had the Shasta. You had the Modoc. You mentioned the Klamath, the Wintu, the Yana tribes, a couple of more. (09:56) there was an historic eruption of Mount Shasta allegedly in 1786. And it was observed and noted, but it is not disputed because the Smithsonian, right, steps in and they measure everything in the Shasta area. The last known eruption of Mount Shasta was around 1250 AD. During the last 10,000 years, Mount Shasta has erupted every 800 years. (10:28) But over the last 4,500 years, it's erupted every 600 years, which means... We're due for an eruption. But if we back this up and talk about the legends of the gods there throwing fire at each other, well, the last dated eruption was at 1200 AD, 1250 AD. That's quite a long time ago. For the religious part and the gods part, to be repeated for such a length of time. (11:07) Did they witness that eruption in 1200 and the previous eruptions that were happening about every other 600 years or so? That's a very interesting part of the myth and the legend behind Mount Shasta. The first sighting of Mount Shasta by a European or American was by Peter Ogden, and he was the leader of the Hudson Bay Company Trapping Brigade. (11:38) And that was only in 1826, Christina, 1826. He named the area Sasty, S-A-S-T-Y. And in 1841, Mount Shasta was officially named Mount Shasta. The first recording ascent of Mount Shasta. This all ties into everything that we're going to be talking about in the show today. The first ascent was in 1854 by Elias Pierce. (12:04) The Shasta Gulch. which is this famous area where the Whitney Glacier is, is referenced in the lyrics of the song Unfair from 1994 by one of my favorite bands, Pavement. Little fun fact. I had to throw that in there. But so which brings us up to Skel and Lau. So when the Europeans and the Americans arrived, they start to hear about this stuff. (12:44) And they're looking at the mountain. And that's when some of the ideas came into, A, the lizard people, B, They were finding the cave system. They found the lava tubes and the fact that it was a volcano. And then the gods that were fighting each other, right, throwing fire at each other. But to have the last eruption at 1250 A.D. (13:08) , that just makes all of this all the more curious. So that's the background of Shasta, and that's Calcutta. Kind of where, in my mind's eye, the God's legend surfaced was because it's an active volcano. Throwing in the facts, Jimmy, starting out the show so strong, and I am loving every moment of it because, my goodness, you caught things that I didn't. (13:34) And so something that I did want to touch on, going back to the natives, because Jimmy's bringing the facts, I'm bringing in the natives. It's that kind of tag team kind of deal. And according to traditional beliefs of the Shasta region, the entire area is inhabited by Axkii. a term that directly translates to pains. (13:56) However, the local indigenous communities describe them as spiritual beings that can manifest as tiny humans and animals, almost like the Pukwudgie, dwelling among the numerous boulders and the lowlands up at the peaks and within the rapids and streams of the region as well. And the indigenous people of the Shasta area regard these, quote, pains as, as these sources that can cause sickness, misfortune, and death. (14:26) And it's very similar to how Christian faith view the devil and its demons, if we were to kind of attempt to make a comparison between the two. And likewise, it is believed that these malevolent spirits can possess unsuspecting individuals as well. But here's the crazy part, and maybe it might sound a little familiar to you, Those that talk about these entities, like the Axki and a few other ghosts and spiritual aspects, spirits there that are negative, it's frowned upon to talk about very much like the Skinwalker. (15:05) And legend holds that only a true shaman or a medicine man or woman possess the power to banish these demonic forces. And when we are looking at any sacred thing, land, any sacred mountain or river, you do have this contrast between yin and yang of it being a protector of it, having a really fantastical story. (15:28) And in many respects, even healing properties. And then you have this other aspect of, but you better be careful because there are these negative entities that also reside there. And I think, If we were to take that at face value and at the very least just understand the moral of the story, it would be have good intention when you enter a location. (15:49) Because also in Mount Shasta, there are tours, there are vortex tours, very similar like in Sedona, where once again, you have that contrast of if you go, you will be healed from all of your ailments. But also you could be pushed off a cliff if you're not careful. all of this happening in this in this specific area in and around mount shasta and as I just mentioned the first ascent of mount shasta uh europeans and americans we had the gold rush uh it's a beautiful scenic area and it wasn't until uh you know 1850 the (16:33) first ascent was 1854 And in a very, very, very short time, remember, everybody heading west from the East Coast, you had the gold rush, you had everything else that was happening in the area. So you had trading companies and things, and you had settlers and explorers, a very lawless area, a very free-form area. (16:57) But in a very, very, very short period of time, After we arrived, we're hearing the stories from the natives in the area. And then all of a sudden, it was this explosion of weirdness that came out of there, and specifically Lemuria. And Lemuria was mentioned in 1880. 474 00:17:19,836 --> 00:17:19,517 1880. (17:20) Are we going to go there right now? Well, the reason why we have so much to cover, too, but in 1880, you have to think about in 1854, the first ascent of Mount Shasta, just talking about 25 years later. It's a very, very, very, very short period of time. But this was about Mount Shasta. And so you have these mentions that started to circle around in the 1880s about Lemuria. (18:05) and the continent of Lemuria and the survivors of Lemuria moving to Mount Shasta and establishing themselves there. There was a description of a hidden Lemurian village in 1925. In 1931, and we're going to be talking a lot about these individuals, you have Harvey Spencer Lewis using the pseudonym of Wisher S. Curve. (18:33) He wrote Lemuria, the Lost Continent of the Pacific. And this is where things, we're going to go backwards, but let's start here for a second. It was published by the AMORC, the Ancient and Mystical Order of Rosicrucius, also known as the Rosicrucian Order. And this particular order, the AMORC, is the largest Rosicrucian organization in the world. (19:04) And they wrote about the hidden Lemurian cities of Mount Shasta. And then we were just off to the races. But it was also the previous mentions that were going on over the last 30, 40, or 50 years going back to the 1880s. It was a crazy time in and around Mount Shasta, Christina. It was. During that time frame, we're going to be covering a lot of people and ideas and groups and sightings. (19:34) Shasta is known for its beautiful scenery and Lumeria and Telos and there being an underground base there with ancient beings, with lizard people as well. And so Mount Shasta really does have a rather unique atmosphere. reputation when it comes to the united states when it comes to being a mysterious mountain so on and so forth um if you want to go there we can but before we do that I want to just say thank you so much jaina for that but also that you're graduating in june that is so exciting it says thank you for keeping my studying (20:12) breaks spooky congratulations on that I know what that's all about hopefully you walk and if you do take some pictures tag me on twitter I'd love to like that for you because that is A really exciting thing. So pretty cool stuff right there. Get that diploma. Oh yeah. You better. It looks good. It looks good on the wall. (20:32) Do you know how many people have reached out to me, Christina, that say, you've gotten me through my studies? You know, I sit, I'm working at night, I've got you, I'm studying at night, I'm writing, and I've got you on in the background. And how many people reach out to say, you know, I couldn't have done it w (20:54) ithout... And that's really, really, really cool. You know, but stay focused, stay focused, especially during today's show. This, if this cast of characters, and this goes all the way up to the present day, but if this cast of characters of what is and was going on in and around Mount Shasta doesn't just flip you out, it is just fascinating, fascinating. (21:24) And I don't know where to start. Where do you want to go? You want to, okay. If we start with J.C. Brown, he's no relation of mine. I don't know who J.C. is. But where do you want to go first? Let's go there. Just because you had touched on Lumeria, I think it'd be a really great place to start. (21:45) And then we can go into the other aspects a little bit later. But when it comes to J.C. Brown, this is a really... You can't talk about Shasta without talking about this man. And here's an imaginary image of Lumeria. But yeah, actually, I'll just leave it there for now. So he was hired back in 19... (22:06) by the Lord Cadre Mining Company of England to look for gold. And then there he discovered a cave which sloped downward for 11 miles. And there he found an underground village filled with gold and shields and mummies and giants. as well in this part. But he was also a geologist and a treasure hunter, at least as the story goes. (22:34) And when he was attempting to just go on this gold-seeking expedition, he came across just this mysterious tunnel, and he thought to himself... Let's go down there. Let's walk 11 miles because I have nothing else better to do. And probably was not his mentality at all. He thought, hmm, but keep going. Maybe I'll find just bucket loads of gold. (22:55) And he found a lot more than just that. But among the artifacts, Brown reported and said, Honestly, all we really have is his word when it comes to this. Because he reported finding golden tablets inscribed with hieroglyphics. And he mentioned that it looked like it was glowing, which is bizarre. But perhaps... The most astonishing aspect when he was walking through these chambers that it was that he found these giant skeletons, the smallest one measuring seven feet tall, while the largest was about 11 feet in height. (23:33) Now, he didn't actually tell the world this until, as the story goes, 30 years later, when he told his story to John C. Root, who proceeded to gather an exploration team in Scottsdale, California, and there 80 people joined the team. But on the day the team was ready to set out to hike 11 miles down this tunnel going into Mount Shasta, Brown never showed up. (24:03) And he was never heard of again. Yeah. He was a no-show. And the mysterious J.C. Brown, right? There's our first dun-dun-dun, right? Never heard from again. 80 people showed up. And the part about... Well, his story is a fascinating one. But the 10-foot mummies always had my attention. That... You know, glowing tablets, hieroglyphs. (24:36) Okay, all right. Yeah, that's cool. But the 10-foot mummies part. Also, an 11-mile cave. you need to really stop and think about what that implies. That's a long ways. And it would have to be very warm. I mean, that's a long cave, an 11-mile cave. Look up cave systems and start to see, you know, what is the longest cave. (25:07) And so for him to... to say that he found an 11-mile cave going down. The cave went down. It descended and ended in this village. And this is just one. This is the start of a lot of crazy. The stories around Mount Shasta are just absolutely incredible. And, yeah, you're right about that, though. He waited 30 years to tell his story. (25:38) And Stockton, California, which is, you know, in the middle part of California, pretty cool town, pretty cool people, pretty honest. You know, it's Stockton. And you're going to go with this fantastic tale. you yeah you will find 80 people that that want to go and do this and that's exactly what happened and uh he broke a lot of hearts that day you know to get to get the team together and that's the part of the story where you're just like he waited 30 years john c root uh you know 80 people excited assembling (26:17) getting their stuff together pack their bags they're right they were leaving And he was a no-show. Now, does that add to the mystery, right? That maybe he was kidnapped, maybe he was disappeared, whatever you have. Or was it just all made up? And he chickened out. I want to get into that aspect, Jimmy, because first of all, I did look up the longest cave passage in the world, like you requested. (26:47) And the longest one is in Vietnam in the Son Dong Cave. And that one is only 2.8 miles long, one passage. And that's the longest one in the world that has been recorded thus far. That's right. And I read a comment here by Steve. They never found the cave, which if this cave system was 11 miles long, you would have thought that if you have 80 people walking in and around the cave in the mountain, they would find that cave system. (27:16) Don't you think? They never did. But no, they assembled in Stockton. Stockton is... Probably 300 miles south. Stockton is like by me. You can still go on your own time and try to find this cave, but here we are 100 plus years later and no one's found it. Or if they have, they haven't made it public. (27:41) I see what you're saying. Yes, yes. Now there are lava tubes there. There are lava tubes. And again, even that part of it, and I've got a few friends that say that they have found the lava tubes and that they have been in there. Yes, there are lava tubes. 11-mile lava tubes, well, that's a whole other thing. (28:04) I'm telling you, that's a ginormous cave system. And I have been in big caves. I've been in the Mammoth Cave in Tennessee. It's huge, but it's not 11 miles. It's not. You're in and out of there probably in 30 minutes. But anyway, the exact location and everything else, that left with him. (28:32) Once his story was told and what was said to John C. Root, after that, he was a no-show. JC was gone. So, yeah, the 80 people, they had nowhere to go. Mount Shasta is big. It's a big area. It's a big mountain. And there you go. And there were a lot of prospectors up there at the time. There were a lot of mining companies. (28:58) The gold rush was real. And there were a lot of prospectors up there looking for stuff like this. Yes, and to this day, it's still shrouded in mystery, even though it's one of those mountain ranges that just has an extensive amount of tourists that go there every single year. But how did this really get famous? How did this reach the public eye? Well, back in 1864, we have zoologist Philip Scladder, and he published an article about a classification of species called lemurs, in which he was puzzled by the presence of their (29:35) fossils in both Madagascar and India, but not in Africa or the Middle East. And he hypothesized that Madagascar and India... had once been part of a larger continent. And then this kind of was leading to the discovery of Pangea. But following this scientific discovery, the concept of Lumeria began to appear in the works of other scholars, including Ernst Heckler. (29:59) And he was looking for like kind of this missing link in this area, proposing that the fossils of the first humans sunk under the sea, but some proposed that lost land was, went somewhere else. And this was kind of leading into the aspect of Atlantis, which had been in legend and lore for centuries. But then when you have you're looking at this there were a few books that were published one of them that was published in 1886 and actually I'm gonna get a little more details on that because it's really (30:32) interesting and it's known and the book is titled a dweller of two planets or the dividing of the way and I have it here there it is And here's the person that wrote it. But here's a really fun fact about this book, because it's addressed a lot when people talk about Lumeria in Mount Shasta. So the book was finished in 1886. (30:54) And then in 1894, the manuscript was typewritten and copyrighted. And then again in 1899, owing to an addition. But here's the but. It was not published until 1905 by his mother, Mary Elizabeth Oliver, who six years after Oliver's death in 1899. And the person that wrote this is Frederick Spencer Oliver, by the way. (31:22) But people, when they address this book, they say, oh, well, it was in 1886, which yes, it was, but it wasn't really made public. People couldn't get their hands on it, like your average person, not just family, until 1905. But pushing that little fun detail aside, This is one of the books that was first coming out talking about this. (31:46) And then it was providing so much imagination for people all around the world to go and visit Mount Shasta for themselves to hope and witness something bizarre. But according to the book National Park Mysteries and Disappearances California by Steve Stockton and Bill Melder, there are narratives about a secret society dwelling within the concealed city inside of Mount Shasta known as the Great White Brotherhood. (32:17) And the name reflects not their skin color, but the radiant white light that often surrounds these beings who are typically in these immaculate white robes. And they're described as a group of spiritually advanced beings or ascended masters attracted to Mount Shasta by its unique energy. And allegedly... Residing within the mountain, they navigate through golden tunnels to their secluded temples adorned with jewels and crystals. (32:49) Now, why are we bringing this up, Jimmy? I'll let you take the floor for this one. Okay, so now let's... Let's recap for a second. J.C. Brown, 1904. Okay. Frederick Oliver and his book, A Dweller on Two Planets, officially published in 1899 when it was, you know, typed up and then released in 1904. J.C. (33:16) Brown had no clue. Right. He's a prospector. He was sent there on a mind. Would he have known or read this book? No, he would have not. The book published in 1899. The book did everything that you just said. Right. It claimed. Remember, lemur lemurs. Right. Lemuria lemuria. That's the progenitor, that's the origin, right? The etymology of Lemuria comes from lemurs. (33:52) Okay, so now we just covered that. So... Uh, in the book, he talks about the sunken continent called Lemaria, uh, were living or in on the survivors in, on, or around Mount Shasta. Oliver's Lemarians lived in a complex system of tunnels beneath jeweled, uh, with jeweled walls, fur carpeted floors, uh, And occasionally we're seen walking the surface dressed in these white robes that Christina was talking about. (34:28) There's lots of stories of strangers in white robes being seen in and around Mount Shasta. And you and I have talked about that before on the show. That's very... That origin story. And we need to back up. And again, not only the white robes, but it's the tunnels, it's the sunken city, it's the jeweled walls. (34:54) Going back to 1904 when the book was widely released. It was published in 1899. But J.C. Brown had his sighting in 1904. Very strange timing on all of this. But that's when we've got to bring in Guy Ballard. Oh, yes. Okay, so Guy Ballard. I can't stress enough the importance of Guy Ballard, not only with the Mount Shasta story and some other stuff that peels off of Ballard. (35:33) We'll get to that. But Ballard, at his peak... With I Am, which was his religious organization, he had, and you got to think about the dating of this in 1930, he had over a million followers. Wow. A million followers in 1930. That's pretty influential. Guy Ballard, Guy W. Ballard was the real... And according to Ballard, n (36:04) ow this is... Okay, so remember the timing of all of this. So 1904... J.C. Brown, 1904, Frederick Oliver with Dweller. 30 years later, J.C. Brown, that would have been 1934, gets the expedition together in Stockton, California. Four years prior to that, in 1930, according to Guy Ballard, he was hiking. This ties in with everything that Christina just mentioned. (36:39) He says he was hiking on Mount Shasta and he was looking for the group that Christina just mentioned, the Great White Brotherhood. Now look, save your email. This is just part of the historical record. They were called the Great White Brotherhood, also known as the Brotherhood of Mount Shasta. So that's what Guy Ballard's doing. (37:05) And he says he encountered a man who introduced himself as Count St. Germain, who said was to have started Ballard on the path of discerning the teachings that would become the I Am activity of a religious movement. Now, check this out. It says, according to Ballard, and I'm quoting from him, he's at Shasta. (37:34) He says, it came time for lunch. He's hiking. He's alone. He's at a river. He's at a creek. He said, I sought a mountain spring for clear, cold water, cup in hand. I bent down to fill it. when an electrical current passed through my body from head to foot. I looked around and directly behind me stood a young man who, at first glance, seemed to be someone on a hike like myself. (38:04) I looked more closely and realized immediately that he was no ordinary person. As this thought passed through my mind, he smiled and addressed me, saying, quote, My brother, if you will hand me your cup, I will give you a much more refreshing drink than spring water. Ballard says, I obeyed. And instantly the cup was filled with a creamy liquid. (38:34) Handing it back to me, he said, drink it. The young man later identified himself as the Count of St. Germain. Now, may I indulge the audience and myself? Let me just spring off to the right for a second and talk about the Count St. Germain. This is crazy town. The Count St. Germain was a pretty interesting dude, okay? Due to his achievements in science... (39:16) alchemy, philosophy, and the arts. And he also, this is a documented historical figure, so follow me. He also said that he was 500 years old. Now Ballard's story of meeting St. Germain is completely separate from everything else. Now follow me on this, okay? He said that he was 500 years old. Voltaire, right, one of the most influential people in history, called him the wonder man. (39:56) Voltaire called him the man who does not die and who knows everything. Prince Charles of Hesse Castle called him one of the greatest philosophers who ever lived. I'm talking about the Count St. Germain. St. Germain hung out with Casanova. That's right. The Casanova, his best friend. Voltaire, another best friend. (40:23) And Mozart. Mozart. That's Count St. Germain. The Count died in 1784. Ballard says he bumped into him in 1930. St. Germain said he was 500 years old. Now, this is all Mount Shasta. In 1941, now, let's... This all comes full circle. So the Ballards, they go and they start the IM movement, right? And they started writing their books. (41:03) He says he meets St. Germain. And he's channeling this information, and he's getting his information, and he's publishing it, and he gets a million followers across the country. Well, in 1941, the Ballards were sued for copyright infringement by the family of Frederick Spencer. for copyright infringement on A Dweller of Two Planets, the book that was published in 1899 and republished in 1904 and 1905 that we just talked about. (41:40) The suit was dismissed. Now, check this out. You're going to love this. The suit was dismissed for failure to state cause of action. District Judge Dawkins quoted the original forward to Oliver's book in its entirety, where Oliver said that he was not the author, but had channeled the book from a spirit. (42:10) All right. And the book had been copyrighted, this is Oliver's own words, had been copyrighted with Oliver as the proprietor, not as the author. Judge Dawkins pointed out that the Ballards had stated that they were using similar methods to write their books. They're both channeling from sources the Lemaria content and all of everything that was in and around Mount Shasta. (42:43) And these two books were channeled information from two different authors. Case dismissed. Right. It's like the wildest of the wild all going down in Mount Shasta, a town of just at that point, maybe a thousand people. I want you to top that. I want you to top that little, I cannot talk that. No, that is not. (43:14) That was a good full circle of a story, but I will say this. St. Germain is, Reminds me of, like, there are certain aspects and characteristics that remind me of Merlin. Saint-Germain was an everyman. He was an everyman. Science, philosophy, alchemy. He was a musician. He performed in public. He was friends of kings and queens and princesses. (43:41) He was the son of, okay, now, you ready? Here's the real done, done, done. He was the son, officially, the son of the Prince of Transylvania. No. You can't make this stuff up. You can't make this stuff up. You cannot make this up. Saint Germain. Yeah. Yeah. And his pictures of Saint Germain and the people that knew him and commented about him. (44:11) I'm talking about royalty and monarchy in and around Europe. Everybody loved the guy. Everybody loved the guy. They said he had the best stories. He knew his science. He knew his philosophy. He knew politics. He was appointed. He was appointed by a king for geopolitical representation. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's just like this guy was, and he said that he was 500 years old. (44:41) Voltaire, Mozart. It's just like, So he goes to Mount Shasta. He's hanging out there after he died. Well, we don't know if he died. He said he was 500 years old. Allegedly, he died in 1784. And then he shows up and meets Ballard by a stream. Alchemy, right? Gives him a drink. And then he's got all the knowledge of the world. (45:10) It's crazy. Mount Shasta. Man, love it. You explain that so much better than I ever could, filling in all those gaps. Because I'm thinking, I'm listening. I'm like, well, my goodness. I didn't know that or that or that. But let me say this. Mysterious Mysteries, thank you. Lemur for carpets? Yeah, I know, right? I knew that was coming in. (45:32) I knew that was coming in. And also, St. Germain reminds me of Lestat. Yeah, there's a little stat. Well, he's the son of the Prince of Pennsylvania. So you got a little stat going on in there. Have you seen the Marvels yet? I just actually finished watching Loki season two. Sick. Loved it. But I want to say this. (46:00) Okay. On, on the conversation of Dracula, just make this a really, really cool, fun fact. So the author of Dracula, Bram Stoker, funny enough, wrote a novel in 1895 called the shoulder of Shasta. And the whole book, it was fiction, by the way, was centered around Mount Shasta in California. But here's a little fun fact because I never heard of this book. (46:24) And I'm like, give me a summary. I need to understand what was happening here. And actually, I'm not even going to tell you. Look up the main character's name for that book. Again, it is called The Shoulder of Shasta. And put it in the comments. Put it in the live chat because I am not going to say it here. (46:39) Okay. But it's a challenge. It's a dare. And Jimmy, if you find it, you cannot say it out loud either. It's the challenge for our audience. And the book is called The Shoulder of Shasta by Bram Stoker, who also wrote Dracula, his most famous book of all time, back in 1895. Let's see who's going to put it up first in the live chat. (47:01) What was the main character's name? And I'm referring to the male and not the female of that book. Let's see. No. Yeah, I know. I know. Really? Yeah. Well, there's two crazy characters in that book, actually. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Leave that for the comments. Exactly. So getting on to our next aspect. (47:36) Wait, wait, wait, wait. No, no, no, no, no. Just real quick. Give me 10 seconds. Yes. The Marvels. Okay. You've got to watch the Marvels for the cats. Talking about lemurs, right? Okay. Watch the... That twist. So I'm... I don't care what anybody... I thoroughly enjoyed the movie beginning then. I thought the story was great. (48:02) It was well done and all of that. And it's Marvel. But the cats... And the kitty cats and the kittens. And that twist in the movie was phenomenal. That was not lazy writing. That was brilliant writing. And I'll leave it right there. So one more aspect, while we're on the conversation of the men in white, the white brotherhood, I just want to touch on the case of Abraham Mansfield back in 1934. (48:34) This is all happening in the same time frame. But what's really interesting about that particular case is that he, as the story goes, and we only have his account. says that he met a tribe of Lumerians who had dug tunnels connecting Mount Shasta with the Bluff Creek region. And he described these Lumerians to be wearing all white. (48:56) That also looks kind of regal as well. And so when we're looking at these entities on screen here, is it just a group for anyone to be a part of, like the I Am? Can I call it a cult? A group? Okay. You know what? Cult is... It's a touchy word. It's a taboo word. It is. I get that. And I love Shasta. And there's a lot of beautiful people up there. (49:32) But you can attract. If you're going to use the word cult, sometimes you can use it for... For some of the things. I'm not here to offend or anything else. We're all thinking the same thing. So I'm just going to say it out loud. It's cultish. For sure. Yeah. For sure. For sure. And when you say... When you say... (50:00) Something like Ballard did, that you bend down by a stream, you meet this figure that comes up, and then you are suddenly a figure that is dead historically, and you're given something to drink, and then you are enlightened, and you're channeling this information. Then you write a book, and you start a religious movement called I Am, based on the teachings of this figure. (50:28) and you are the all-knowing person, that feels cultish to me. It does. It does. It does. I'm not saying it is. It just feels cultish. And we'll leave it right there. The list of what the media would identify as cults that are associated with this area, that list is long. That's a long list. That's a long list. (50:55) A lot of documentaries right now on Netflix if you want to go and study up on cults in Mount Shasta. They're out there. You'll find a lot. And the next aspect we should get into is Bigfoot. It's California, okay? Right on the border between California and Oregon. There's a lot of Bigfoot sightings there. (51:17) And then getting into Washington, I mean, my goodness. So, Mount Shasta. There's a handful of sightings, but maybe one of the more... I wouldn't say fully documented per se, but one that was made more public, that got more attention, and we actually have the name of the witnesses, is Virgil Larson back in 1976. (51:36) This is a really... This is a case that I think if a lot of people were in his shoes, they would probably have done the same. So back in 1976, the Mount Shasta Hairland reported an intriguing encounter experienced by Virgil Larson, a logger from Salmon, Idaho. And Larson was employed in a logging operation on Mount Shasta. (52:03) And his experience would be regarded as one of the most notable Bigfoot encounters in and around Mount Shasta. So on a particular morning at around 8.30 a.m., Larson, accompanied by his friend Pat Conway, they were navigating the slopes toward their longing site. And the journey was challenging. So they took a little break. (52:28) They sat down, took a little sip of water, hoping at least. And then... they slightly separated by the forest's dense trees, yet within earshot of each other. And so during this pause, Larson detected the sounds of what he assumed to be another person descending down the slope, possibly a Forest Service employee. (52:50) However, the situation quickly escalated from very mundane to incredibly mysterious, because after calling out to the figure, There was no reply. So you have Larson saying, hey, hello, who are you? Do you want some water? And there was no reply from this entity. So Larson watched as it moved behind a bush and then turned in his direction. (53:16) And with curiosity just oozing out of him, he called out again. Hello, who's over there? prompting this figure to emerge and come forward with a little friendly hello back. But what he saw startled him so bad that he almost fell backwards because he saw a tall, dark-haired entity, distinctly non-human with a foul odor. (53:43) And he described it later in a newspaper clipping as he mentioned, quote, and stunk like a half-rotten bear hide. and he was able to see this just from 20 yards away and so he was so mortified by what he was looking at he ran as quickly as he could later larson and conway the person that he went into the forest with earlier returned to that location only to find the creature to be gone but there was this still this unpleasant scent that lingered in the area First of all, let me just ask you this. (54:22) Have you ever smelt a rotten bear hide or just like rotting flesh? I mean, that stuff you will smell for hours, maybe even days before it's very quickly eaten up by the natural wildlife. But in this case, let's say it was Bigfoot. He's taking that stench with him everywhere he goes. So for it to linger for a few hours or a day is pretty remarkable, at least in my opinion. (54:47) But when they went to go inspect the area, They estimated the being's height as approximately seven feet tall based off of the surrounding trees. So Larson was able to just kind of give an estimate on how tall this entity must have been. But then you also have Forest Service personnel, and they also examined the site, but they didn't find any traces. (55:09) any really tangible evidence, but they did find some indistinct footprints, some broken branches, and still that lingering unidentifiable smell, leaving that mystery unsolved. But what's bizarre about this particular case is that they also found blood smeared on dead branches of brush and trees, but it remained very red, unlike blood, which tends to turn very dark when it's exposed for a long period of time to the air. (55:42) So When this was being investigated, not just by these two men, but also by the Forest Service as well, they took some samples of the branches that believed to have blood on it to get an analysis. But they didn't really receive any tangible results. But they also picked up samples of fecal droppings they found as well. (56:03) But they are believed to have been either coyote or bear or possibly wolf. And... there will several days old as well. So with this case, while it's a really remarkable one, like the majority of Bigfoot sightings, there isn't a sufficient amount of tangible evidence for people to be fully on the bandwagon with this case, but yet it's one that we have to cover. (56:32) Well, the odor, I mean, I can confirm. I mean, if you've ever hung out with my brother, Kevin, um, So anyway, the... The... The high strangeness of the area when it comes to Bigfoot, I have had and spoken to and interviewed dozens and dozens of Bigfoot researchers in and around that area. I've interviewed all of them. (57:04) And the sightings repeat. They are consistent. And I would say that it ties into a few different aspects of Bigfoot. The biological undiscovered species, the interdimensional, the paranormal aspect of Bigfoot. There's some of the comments from the indigenous cultures that have gone on for millennia in the area. (57:34) This is part of not only the mystery of Shasta, but the Pacific Northwest, Christina. It has gone on and on and on. Speaking of Bigfoot, I want to circle back to that. Because we left out another in the timeline here because we jumped ahead, Abraham Mansfield. We have to talk about him for a second because going back to the Lemurian part of this, he was – and I've read his books – He was a self-published author. (58:12) So he would do these little short books, and he would publish the books himself and distribute them. But he wrote two important books. One was called The Golden Goddess of the Lemurians and The King of the Lemurians. And in the books, he told about the ancient Lemurians living under Shasta. He described the tunnels, rooms lined with gold, storehouses of priceless jewels, and the plate of time. (58:53) The plates of time. were written, according to Abraham, to preserve the knowledge of what they had, the Lemarians, about atomic power. And that new generations, us, would have the knowledge and use that knowledge wisely with respect and to respect the powers of God and that all things beginning to end, we would respect of all the worlds of all time. (59:43) Okay? Now, this part, and you can go and research Abraham Mansfield. He was a very, very, very fascinating guy. Getting his books today because they were self-published and original, they're priceless. They are. But in 1934, which goes back to our timeline, right? Okay, J.C. Brown, 1904, 1934, J.C. Brown, the expedition out of Stockton, 1930, Ballard and St. (1:00:20) Germain at the creek in Shasta. All right, so in 1934, during a seance, Mansfield was appointed chief of the gods of the Lemurians and the plates of time. All right, just top that. I just want you to top that. Since we're topping, we're topping each other today. No, you are exceeding me consistently today. (1:00:51) I need you to go one up. I need you to go one up of Abraham Mansfield. I will bring in my facts. Here we go. Here's a fact for you. But before I get into that, Gary, thank you for that, is asking, is Mount Shasta located on a ley line? I had to look it up, and the answer is yes, funny enough. Great, great question. (1:01:10) I didn't even think about that, but you're absolutely right. Like five ley lines. Yeah. Here's my fact, but I don't think I can top it, but here we go. So nearly 50 people have died on Mount Shasta since recorded keeping began back in 1916. And about 8,000 climbing permits are given out yearly. And about 50% of climbers actually reach the summit. (1:01:35) Okay, so I'm going to toss this one to you. Like a hot potato. I'm ready. Carl Landers. Let's go. Let's go. Okay, okay, okay, okay. I'm going to pull up an image here. And this is, okay, well, there are two disappearance cases. And when it comes to Landers, this one's a more documented case. (1:01:56) I'm going to share my screen here of what he actually looks like. There he is. And then there's Mount Shasta in the back. So let me just get to my notes here. Okay, while you're doing that, while you're doing that, for the historical record, while Christina's getting ready, I am going to read to you the Associated Press news article in the Los Angeles Times. (1:02:26) Okay, are you ready? May 29th, 1999, 12 a.m. Pacific Time from the Associated Press. The search for a 69-year-old hiker missing for almost a week on Mount Shasta intensified Friday as a state helicopter dropped searchers on the upper slopes of the mountain. Carl H. Landers of Orinda. was last seen in the Lake Helen area near the 10,000-foot level last Saturday morning. (1:03:00) Landers, an avid hiker, was attempting to scale the highest mountain in every county in California. He was climbing with two other hikers when they became separated. That is from the Los Angeles Times, the Associated Press, May 29, 1999. Christina, what actually happened? Jimmy, this is when you need to start bringing in your string. (1:03:26) You're going to tie yourself to everyone else that's hiking with you. You never get separated because you never know what's going to happen. Where's your string, Jimmy? You always have your string. You're packing, right? Water bottle, your beef jerky, your band-aids, and your ball of string. (1:03:51) Don't forget it. In the backpack. Okay, continue. So after he had disappeared, there was nothing that people could just kind of find and understand where he could have been. Now, he was a very experienced hiker. He was also wearing... rather bright clothing. In this case, he was wearing a rust colored coat, ski pants, hiking boots with crampons. (1:04:19) And it's like those things that you put on your shoes, you can walk on the snow, by the way, and prepared for conditions unexpected on the mountain with a backpack of snacks and water and food and everything that you need. And he was wearing two to three layers of clothing as well. So this man knew what he was doing. (1:04:37) And then it just disappeared out of nowhere. So following this disappearance, an intensive search operation was launched and the search covered a vast area of Mount Shasta, utilizing the efforts of search and rescue teams equipped with the latest technology of the time where this took place back in 1999. The rugged and treacherous terrain of Mount Shasta, combined with the altitude and the unprecedented weather conditions, posed significant challenges to the search efforts. (1:05:08) And despite their extensive search, no trace of Landers was ever discovered, not his gear, not his clothing, and no signs of distress. So... The absence of any evidence or clues as to Lander's whereabouts has fueled so much speculation. And among the theories proposed are the possibilities of an accident where he kind of fell down into a little crack in the mountain, possibly. (1:05:37) But... Even then, if that were to happen, his remains were never found. And others have speculated about more natural causes where he might have just kind of fallen sick before he was separated from his group. But then we have to think about just the overall mysteries of Mount Shasta. People have disappeared there. (1:05:59) Many people have died there. There have been UFO sightings and just these weird entity sightings, him referring to these regal entities in all white? Could he have been taken? Could he have walked through a portal? Could he have encountered something that he shouldn't have and he will never find the body? There are so many possibilities when it comes to this, but it does remain one of many unsolved cases that just really perplex and fascinates those interested in missing person cases, particularly those that or people that have had these happen, (1:06:39) these disappearances happen in the wilderness. And one person that has looked into this is Missing411 author, Dave Politis. And he has done extensive research on this and he's still left with more questions than answers of what really happened to Landers. Well, okay, so let's look at the facts of the case, right? Three buddies, right? They're all up there together. (1:07:03) They've got a campsite. They continue hiking up, right? And two are together. They kind of get separated a little bit. They turned around. Landers is not there. They hike back to go and find him. They run into a ranger, a park ranger, right? We're looking for our friend. Have you seen him? No, haven't seen him. (1:07:27) Go back to the campsite. He's not there. They hike back up the hill. They find another hiker up ahead. They think that that's him. They get to him. He's not Landers. They go back. They hook up with the park ranger. What's going on? Don't know. Haven't seen him. Then they find his footprints, and they go, and they think, okay, okay, cool. (1:07:50) We're on his trail. His footprints ended in the snow. There was nothing else there. They just stopped Christina. There was no disturbance after that. There was none of his belongings there. And that's where they get back to town. They start the search. They go right back to his footprints, the search parties. (1:08:14) By the way, nothing happened. that's the documented part of this, is that his footprints ended, and the search party's like, well, what do we do? Right? 10,000 feet is high, but it's not altitude sickness high. I'm 60 years old. He was 69. He's an avid hiker. He's got all the gear. I just went to Peru and went to 13, 14,000 feet. (1:08:45) I went to 15,000 feet. I did. Yeah. Altitude is, is, is starts to affect, but not like that. And not to somebody that's experienced and they're already acclimated on the mountain. It's 10,000 feet. That's not a big deal. So the altitude sickness of it or somebody that's a seasoned hiker like him who's on a mission to go and hike all of the tallest peaks in California, I'm not doing that. (1:09:15) I'm not that kind of hiker, but 10,000 feet is not going to affect me, and I'm 60 years old, so I think we can take sickness out of it. Some people have speculated heart attack. Well, okay, then where his feet stopped, his footprints, you got a body, right? You've got, if that's the cave, whatever. (1:09:35) He got disoriented. He got lost. Well, his footprints wouldn't have just stopped in the snow. And that's the interesting part of this whole case. And all of these years later, that was 1999. Nothing, not a piece of clothing, not his gear, not those crampons that you were just talking about. Those would survive, right? Nothing. (1:10:02) Bears aren't going to eat crampons. You follow what I'm saying? If it was a natural thing. I'm not trying to be morose here. I'm just being realistic. Nothing was ever found. And it was 1999. But as crazy as that case is, as nutty as that case is, as insane as that case is, it's nothing like what we're about to do right now. (1:10:33) And you know what? Can I, okay, just like I did in the previous case, you get your notes ready. I'm going to read you the Associated Press headline from this case. This is September 7th, 2011, Associated Press, right? You ready? Published at 12.01 a.m. This is the headline. missing boy found with help of community. (1:11:10) Okay. So that's the headline that's in the paper. Everybody was looking for this missing three-year-old boy. This is one of the craziest cases I've got. Go ahead, Christina. What is it? This one's wacky. Now, keep in mind, we are dealing with a three-year-old boy. Just remember that. But there's a lot to this case. (1:11:36) In this case, when I say his case, I mean his side of the story. This young boy who we don't have his name or the family's name, at least that I couldn't find. Just remember that as well. I left it out. That's why I only read the headline. Yeah. All right. But no, it's there. It's out there. (1:11:56) But anyway, I'm going to let Christina run with this. But I'm believing the kid. I'm believing the kid on this one. I'm believing the kid. Why would he lie? Listen to this. He's three. And a decent vocabulary, by the way. So it was September of 2011 when a three-year-old boy accompanied by his dog strayed from his family at Fowler's Campground in near McLeod Falls, and it's just situated right below Mount Shasta. (1:12:30) And upon realizing he was missing, his family immediately alerted the authorities. And the search operation quickly escalated, involving personnel from the sheriff's department to volunteer firefighters, all united in the urgent quest to find this three-year-old boy. In the early time of the search, the boy's dog was discovered, but its condition did little to uplift the spirits of the search team. (1:13:01) And you might ask yourself, why? Well, because the dog was found drenched and trembling and huddled on the riverbank near fast-moving rapids, which sparked fear that the child might have been caught by the river's swift currents. And so then as the search continued, Extended into the dark hours of the night, concerns grew over the possibility of the child being taken by this river. (1:13:25) However, in just this magical stroke of luck and through this diligent effort of different search dogs and people as well, the boy was found concealed within a brush at 1245 a.m., marking a significant moment in time for the search and rescue team, obviously, because they found their subject. But this event, w (1:13:51) hen it was celebrated... Let me just say, they were in the river. They were, searchers were wading into the river. I mean, the search efforts for this boy, it was out of control. It was all points, all hands on deck. And so that's an aspect of this, the panic in the community that was there and the relief that Christina is pointing out. But there were people in the river looking for, they were thinking the worst. (1:14:24) A lot of time had passed. He was only three years old. Right, and it's September, so you're getting into the cold weather, especially at night. And his dog was wet, so they were assuming, right? Yeah, let's go to the dark side here. That the dog was in the river with him, right? And so anyway, continue. (1:14:47) So they find the boy. Everyone is hooraying. They're throwing confetti everywhere, like this is the best day ever, as it should be. But when the little boy was having a one-on-one talk with his grandmother of what happened. Three weeks later. Exactly. Three weeks later. This is when the story gets bizarre. Because what we're looking at next is he's sitting down with his grandmother and he says, you know, the grandmother asks, so what happened, sweet pea? Like, why did you go missing? What happened while you were missing? (1:15:25) Like, what was going on? I want to understand because I'm your favorite grandmother. And he looks at her and he says, I like you so much more than my other grandmother. Granny's like, what? what do you mean other grandmother? And the little boy says, well, he looks, she looks like you, but she wasn't you. (1:15:44) I mean, she was kind of mean to be honest. And the grandmother says, continue on with this story. This is intriguing. She says, Christina, she says, what the hell are you talking about? You don't have another grandmother. It's just me. I'm your only grandma. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, can you imagine what she was thinking? Okay, so what happens next? Well, it's giving Coraline vibes here with the other mother kind of deal. (1:16:19) So then the grandson continues on with the story. And he says, well, when I was lost in the woods, quote unquote, I was taken by my other grandmother, which, by the way, looked just like you. But she kind of had robot characteristics. And she took me into this cave filled with spiders. And there were purses and guns. (1:16:44) And I was a little scared to touch them. And then in this moment, the other grandmother says, all right, now go defecate on that sheet of paper. I need you to do it right now. And the little boy's like, I'm not going to do that. I'm potty trained. Come on. I'm not going to do that for you. And so then the other mother, this robotic type entity, just gets angry. (1:17:03) furious and she's like, you better do it. And the boy says no. And then the other mother, according to this three year old story, three year old boy's story, The other grandmother says, you know, you are actually from outer space. There was a seed placed in your mother from outer space, which makes you not fully terrestrial. (1:17:24) Now, try explaining that to a three-year-old, by the way. But for the most part, to our understanding, he grasps that information. But other grandmother is so furious that he will not defecate on a sheet of paper and that she says, all right, go to that bush over there and wait until someone finds you. You're no longer my problem. (1:17:42) I'm not going to deal with you. And so then at 1245 AM in September of 2021, he was found. And then he didn't tell this story to his real grandmother until several weeks later. And when granny's hearing this story, she immediately calls the parents and she says, how are you feeding your three-year-old son absolute science fiction garbage? This is a load of malarkey. (1:18:11) and then the parents say what the heck are you talking about grandma he's three like what kind of sci-fi are we gonna give him and so then she relays the story to the parents and the parents say that's funny actually that you mentioned that because my son referring to the dad here He mentioned that story to me as well. (1:18:32) And again, I'm pretending to be the dad. So this little boy had told the same story to his father and to his grandmother, and neither of them believed it. But this is one case that truly stands out as a mysterious disappearance, not because the boy was never found, but it's because of the story that he ended up telling his family members three weeks later. (1:18:57) Yeah. And his dad said, you know, he told me the story, but it's just it's his overactive imagination. And there was another piece to this, too, as well. When he said he said, my other grandmother grabbed me and took me to this creepy place. And she's a robot. And now he said when he gets there that the cave, it was a cave, a cave with spiders. (1:19:29) You had mentioned guns. He also said purses, too, which I thought was a weird thing to describe, that it had purses and guns. But he said that... the grandmother told him to lie down and so she could look at his tummy. That's right. Yeah. What a weird, he's three years old. And she told him as she's looking at his, at his tummy, uh, that he was indeed, he was from outer space, and that he was placed in his mother's tummy. (1:20:16) Now, is it that he's from out, he's telling him that he's from outer space and that he was placed in his mother's tummy. And then, here's the closer for this, for me. This is the crazy part. He then says that his grandmother took him back to the river and told him to wait under the bush until somebody would find him. (1:20:50) Now, he's three years old. I'm going with the kid's story on this one. I am. I'm going with the kid's story. I'm just going with the kid's story. It's it's a remarkable case, and it's another one that Dave Politis has looked into as well and also places it in the category of rather extraordinary. (1:21:14) And it's one that has to be addressed when talking about Mam Chasta. Now, you don't have to believe it. But we're putting it out there for you to make up your own mind on what you think of this very mysterious mountain just up north of California, really close to the border of California and Oregon, which is just in itself a rather interesting place. (1:21:40) thought-provoking place to have a mysterious mountain I'm just gonna I'm just gonna put that out there well I can I say this christina and again another fantastic show and I want to thank you and and everybody did we get to 500 likes did we get to 500 likes okay we're are we there yet We got to get to 500. (1:22:04) If we don't get to 500, I'm going to stay on the air. I'm not going to go to the Conscious Life Expo. I'm going to stay on the air right here until we get to 500 likes. I'm going to blow out my evening. If you enjoyed the show, hit that like button right down below. And what case... Did we cover that you might not have known about? There's also been stories of ghosts and of orbs as well that we didn't have time to cover. (1:22:33) But it's just one of those. And I'm going to say it over and over again. It's just one of those locations that you definitely have to visit. It's just bizarre. Here's what's so great about today's show. Everything that we talked about, every person that we talked about, every book, every newspaper article, all of it is part of the historical record. (1:22:57) You can go back. You can look up the names. You can go and read the newspaper articles. You can read the media. You can read the books that were published. This is all part of the historical record. And which takes me back to the beginning of the show today, Christina. It's a very small place. It is so seeped in history. (1:23:25) And you just go off of the 5 Freeway, you go to McLeod, you drive into town, you drive into Shasta, and just take a look around and go, what? To have everything that we just covered in today's show, and we just scratched the surface, by the way. We packed a lot in, but we just scratched the surface. Everything that we talked about is right there for you to go and research. (1:23:53) It's one of the most fascinating areas. And again, it's so famous. It's famous. It's such a famous place. And when you go and you visit, and you should, it's beautiful. It's majestic. Yeah. I remember the first time that I stood at the base of Mount Shasta. And at that time, I had friends that were texting me and emailing me that were on the mountain on a trail heading up to a portal. (1:24:20) That day, the first day that I was there. And I'm looking at the mountain. It is unbelievably beautiful. So go and just see it for that. And do your research. Remember my ghost story with the glass handle and the door opening? That's all real. That all happened. But everything that we talked about today, go and do the research and then go and visit Shasta. (1:24:47) and try to understand everything that is there. Historically, it is just a crazy place. It's amazing. Definitely don't go there blind. I mean, when I mean blind, I mean with the lack of information. Also, don't go blindfolded. That would be real stupid. But as Jimmy laughs, but I'm being very serious. (1:25:06) So make sure if you ever go, just do the basics. Or you can just watch this show in detail. Take some notes so that you know what you're up against. Jimmy, thank you so much for being on the show today. And good luck at your Conscious Life Expo. It sounds very exciting. Yeah, I got a busy day in front of me. (1:25:24) See, tonight, who's on the show tonight, Christina? You tell me. Oh, Bruce Solheim is with us. What a day. Bruce Solheim is with us. We're going to be talking about the ET human interaction that is going on. So we're going to talk about that. And then I'm off to the Conscious Life Expo. So thank you, everybody. (1:25:48) Let's get to 500 likes. Christina, enjoy your weekend. Everybody, I'll see you tonight on Fade to Black. And if you're coming out to the Conscious Life Expo, I'll see you there. I'll be arriving later on this evening. Rock on. That's exciting. Thanks, Jimmy. Another great show. Let me know which cases, what facts you enjoyed the most in the live chat and in the comments as well. (1:26:11) We're just five away from 500, so hit that like button if you have not already. Andrew says, I'm a 15-year trucker veteran, and I've driven through the weed patch such... 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