UFOs and Aliens: Movie and Pop Culture Soft Disclosure!

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Is the media involved in soft UFO disclosure? When we watch UFO-related movies, TV shows, news, or listen to music, is it to help us acclimate to the idea of life beyond our planet or to scare us of the possibilities? Different writers have different agendas, and today we're going to look at some of the most famous media to decipher an answer. (00:37) Let me bring in my co-host, Jimmy Church of Fade to Black Radio. Happy Thursday, Jimmy. Hey, Christina, how are you? Look at the guilt on her face. She knows. She's ready, man. She's ready to click. It's great to be here. And this is going to be a fun show. And just like every week, I have to ask you, Christina, Where did this come from? I mean, this is out of nowhere. (01:14) This is unlike you. Well, you know what? I actually made a phone call with one of my buddies and I said, let me get his insights on a topic that they might want covered. You know who that person was? Pretty smart. Pretty smart person though, because this is a great topic. Smart, smart, smart person. So let's keep that mystery there. (01:42) Let's keep that mystery there. And you can tell me later who this genius was. Yeah, because we have to... We have to ask ourselves, and the community is constantly asking themselves the question, is this part of the drip drip, right? Is this part of soft disclosure? It might be a degree or two above soft, actually, because I don't think it's that subtle. (02:13) And we have that part of it. And we have the other part. What about the interest of the different artists and entertainers and songwriters and actors and the writers, right? The creative element of this, how are they driven and what are their belief systems? You know, when an artist writes a song, about contact. (02:40) And a lot of these lyrics are very, very direct. What is their belief in it? And I've got a bunch of really crazy quotes that we're going to go through a little bit later in the show that I think are going to open up some people's eyes on this. Well, for today's show, because we have several topics we're going to get into, for those catching this live, I'm going to throw it to you. (03:07) Do you want to cover movies, TV shows, or music? The first person that gives us an answer will be the first topic that we're going to cover. Oh, and by the way, starting from today, moving forward, all of the Mysteries with a History episodes will be 60 minutes long instead of 90. So keep an eye out for that. (03:27) And hopefully you get to watch the entire thing. So let's see who was the first person in the live chat to tell us music, music, music. And that comes from Hyde. Yeah. Hyde's Hyde's was now here's here's. Okay. So we got music. This is an order. Music, TV, movies, movies, movies, movies, movies in TV, movies. (03:56) But movies, movies, movies, movies. Yeah, music is cool. But music was first. Obviously, I like this subject a lot. And I probably would have gone here first, too. You know what? I think it's the background that gives it away that you might like music. It's kind of a dead giveaway, isn't it? And if we look at music, we can start with... (04:27) some of the obvious things, and I'm going to save some things for you. I've got some that aren't as obvious, okay, and that are strange. And one of them, I'm going to start with Van Halen. Okay. Van Halen. And now people are going to go, what song by Van Halen is about contact? Well... The first album they did with Sammy Hagar, after David Lee Roth left the band, on that album, 5150, there's a song called Love Walks In. (05:10) And I have to tell you, when the album came out, Christina, I was so excited, right? New Van Halen album, number one, there's Edward. And I have that guitar. It's right there. Nice. Cool, isn't it? Yeah, it's pretty trippy. So I'm listening to the album over and over and over and over again, and the song Love Walks In was one of my favorite tracks on the album. (05:41) It's really good. And then I remember listening to it closer, right? Listening to it closer, and I was like, wait a minute here. They say the word alien. So now I go back, and it just kind of got past me a couple of times. I thought it was a love song. No, that's not what it's about. It's about making contact. (06:18) And so Sammy Hagar, who wrote the song, said this about Love Walks In. Quote, I'm a firm believer. I have seen, have felt, have been contacted three times, maybe four. I have received information that has been valuable in my life from extraterrestrials, ET, and they have used me. I'm going to sound like a complete nut here, but they have used me in an experimental fashion. (07:01) The easiest way to put it is that they have downloaded my brain with information, end quote. Right, right, right? It's like, what? And then Sammy comes out with his autobiography. And one of the chapters in the book, he tells the story. about one of his contact experiences. And he... Now, he tells us in the first person, like, this is how it went down. (07:34) And that a tube came down through the roof of his bedroom, the ceiling of his bedroom, and connected to the top of his head and started downloading information from a craft over his house. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like... This is how it went down, everybody. I'm just going to tell you, I'm going to be straight. (07:57) This is how it happened. And he says this occurred three or four different times. And that's what Love Walks In is about, about contact. And the opening line, the opening word in the song is contact. Contact is what it takes. You know, and I always thought it was a love song, like touching somebody, you know, contact, you know, and that's what it takes for love. (08:30) And then once you find out the song is about aliens and you go back and you read the lyrics and you hear the words, it's 100% E.T. contact song. Crazy. That is pretty wild. And you know what? At the same time, it sounds slightly similar to David Bowie. So people that have followed his music are aware of his alien phase that he had. (08:55) And he wrote a lot of songs pertaining to aliens and UFOs and other planets. One of his most famous being Starman. During the time of his fame, all the way up until his death, really, but... During the 70s and 80s, he was just so heavily involved in media. He was an absolute trendsetter. Before he became famous, he actually helped assist in writing UFO magazines in the UK. (09:24) But that's a side note. But when we're looking at media, he had mentioned, I think in one or two interviews before, that he was also contacted by... an entity to help guide him write music referring to life beyond the stars. And he was one of the biggest musicians during his time. And so my question is, Jimmy, for you, because I'm aware that you listen to his music all during that time frame. (09:57) Did he inspire you or your friends to just be curious about space? Because the first exoplanet wasn't discovered until 1992. Yes, there was a lot of like TV shows and movies in the 50s, late 50s into the 60s. But music, it hits different than television. There was, and you're right about that, there was so much talk in the music community when I was growing up about Bowie, and of course Ziggy Stardust and Starman, but he also, and this whole E.T. (10:37) contact alien side to him. And then he starred in the movie The Man Who Fell to Earth, which is about – he plays an ET that comes to Earth. We don't need to get into that movie, which is unreal. And then they did a remake of it, a TV series. I think it was on HBO. or Amazon, one of those, The Man That Failed to Earth. (11:07) It's really, really good. Well, the original was with David Bowie, and I would say, as great as the remake was, the TV series, I've been waiting for season two. The way that it ends in season one is like halfway through the movie, so there's a lot more to tell in that story. But anyway... There was always this talk around David Bowie and space and aliens and contact. (11:39) And he definitely didn't hide it. The song Starman, which is only one of so many songs that he wrote about this, But the chorus in the song is just incredible. And it goes, there's a star man waiting in the sky. He'd like to come and meet us, but he thinks he'd blow our minds, right, that we couldn't handle it. (12:06) There's a star man waiting in the sky. He's told us not to blow it, right? Don't screw this planet up because he knows it's all worthwhile, that life is worth living. So take care of the planet. And that's what Starman was about. And big hit, Ziggy Stardust. And if you go back to that period, In 1970, 71, 72, that's not necessarily the image or what was on the pop charts. (12:43) And Ziggy Stardust, this persona comes out. It's not David Bowie, it's Ziggy Stardust. And he takes on this persona and does the tour. And it changed everything. His music was so far out there. It seemed like it was from the future, Christina. And for those of us that were around back then, yeah, I'm that old. (13:12) I was young. I was probably eight, nine years old when all of this was really starting to take off for David Bowie. But it was played all over the radio. and uh and you think of songs like fame and and when they came out and how big of how much of an impact that it had but you would listen to it you're like this this is from the future this doesn't sound like everything else that everybody else is doing right now. (13:47) And that's, that was David Bowie, huge impact on us. And he, he never, he never hid that fact, his interest and his contact. No. And with his ginormous following, I think that it inspired a lot of people to follow in his footsteps to ask the same questions. But the biggest thing is to be open minded. So he was one of just a handful, a very small handful of artists during that time frame that were talking about this openly. (14:15) Now, when we get into the 90s, into the early 2000s, this is when music was touching more on UFOs. And we're going to touch we're going to touch on that. A good example of this is mega death. We're going to talk about that song and Rick Roberts. Thank you so much. It says our blue oysters, a cult experiencers. (14:34) Take me away. Great video slash song. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Blue Oyster Cult for sure, Boston, Styx, which I think somebody had mentioned it, Come Sail Away, which was off of the Grand Illusion album, 1977. Man, such a great record. There's a line in that song, Hey, Wall Nation, the song Sail Away, um come sail away there's a line in there they climbed aboard their starship and and and headed for the skies and then you take that song in its full context when you know how the ending is absolutely it's about contact and (15:22) journey and and those that choose uh to be astronauts that choose to leave this planet to choose to make contact and would turn around and leave on an alien ship. I have, let me pull this up really quick. I'll share this. Check this out. Now talk about one of the cool, coolest album covers ever is this one. (15:55) You ready? Excited. I am. I'm ready. I'm ready. Bam. Oh, it's not. There it is. There it is. That's pretty snazzy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Christopher Columbus. You've got totally that, and you've got the Palladian ship with the three balls on the bottom and the light in the middle. And, you know, it's been the subject. (16:28) It's on my I Want to Believe poster right here on the wall. But that sticks come sail away. So what do you think the subject of this song is about, right? And it's so that period you're absolutely right. And there's another, there was another song out at that same time. Again, I'm going to say 70, 71, 72, Neil Young after the gold rush. (16:58) And it's one of those songs where you listen to it and it's a hit and it's wonderful. It's melodic. And it's, and you're like, What's it about? You've got to listen to it over and over again. What's this really about? Now, check this out. Here's a line from the last verse. (17:21) Well, I dreamed I saw the silver spaceships lying in the yellow haze of the sun. There were children crying and colors flying all around the chosen ones. All in a dream, all in a dream, the loading had begun. Flying Mother Nature's silver seed to a new home in the sun. Now, now, now, you know, when I'm a kid and I'm listening, I'm just like, you know, and it just sounded trippy to me. (17:55) But now I know it's about contact and starships coming down, picking us up and taking us away. Dolly Parton, who we all love, love Dolly. She's great. She did a cover of that song. Okay. And so he calls, she calls Neil. It's like, Neil. a question what's this song about right what dude it's beautiful but what's it about he goes ah you know and she says I told him I think it's about the second coming or the invasion of aliens or both Right? And that's what she said to Neil. (18:41) And it's just funny to me. It's the same thing with all of these songs over and over again. You got to get to what's really going on behind and what was the artist thinking when they wrote it. And then you have something obvious, Christina, like calling all occupants of interplanetary craft by the carpenters. (19:04) And that song, I used to play that on Coast to Coast all the time. That was some of the bumper music that I would use on Coast. And I remember when I chose to play it, I didn't know if people would get it. It's Jimmy playing the Carpenters. what's this about what's going on but they did and and it's a song very directly calling out to our friends you know calling all occupants you know let's go it's time it's time for us to start to get along let's introduce ourselves pretty much and (19:47) the thing is that when we're looking at before the internet, the lyrics, you had to listen to the song and then write it down in order to get an understanding of what it was really saying. And then, you know, screwing up some of the lyrics, thinking that you know what it's all about. And Android, thank you so much for that as well. (20:05) The next thing that I think would be cool to talk about is Megadeth. This is between you and me. I have no problem admitting this. I was, I didn't know about this band until looking up the song. I know. I know. I'm behind on some things. What? I got a Megadeth guitar. It's not in here. What do you mean? So they did a song. (20:30) I know. I know. I'm just digging a hole for myself ready to jump in. But the song that they created was called Hanger 18, created in 1990. And that song in particular delves into conspiracy theories surrounding UFOs and the U.S. military, and specifically referencing the rumors of Hangar 18 at the Wright-Patterson Air Force Base, which is believed to have alien tech and possibly extraterrestrial beings as well, very similar to Area 51. (21:04) And so with these lyrics... which we can get into if you like, it's going into a bit more detail, talking about the possibilities. And I did a show a while back about celebrities having UFO sightings. And, oh, genuinely, a lot of celebrities have had significant sightings sightings. And the question is, why? Is it because they have a bigger fan base and more influence over people compared to someone that's just walking their dog down the street? And when people write these kinds of songs or participate in movies or (21:45) even direct movies, the question is, where are they getting that information from? Why are they covering it? What's the purpose? What's the agenda? Is it for them? Were they told to do it by somebody else? Or is it just because it's nice and it's trendy? I'm going to do. Thank you, NP, for that. (22:03) Really cool. I'm going to do my best Dave Mustaine impersonation right now. Right at Christina. What do you mean? You never heard of Megadeth. What do you mean? That's a great song. Yeah, yeah, Hanger 18. I mean, straight at it, straight at it about that warehouse and what's there at Wright-Patterson. (22:30) Megadeth, hugely influential band and with just a ginormous fan base. And so you have a song like this, absolutely direct. Hanger 18, line by line, extraterrestrials and crashed spacecraft and recovery and alien bodies on ice on an Air Force base at Wright-Patt. They named the building, you know, and so the fans read this and they get the knowledge, right? And they get it. (23:03) It reminds me of like the band Hypocrisy and their song, Days of Disclosure. What's that about? Well, what do you think it's about? And all the way up to the Foo Fighters or Katy Perry. The Foo Fighters, now, their song, The Sky is a Neighborhood. Okay, so when this comes out, And I'm a big Dave Grohl fan and just a big fan of the Foo Fighters. (23:39) And the song comes out, and I remember the day of the release, and I'm reading the lyrics. I went, okay, so this is about contact. Oh, okay. So I remember I played, I hosted Coast that weekend and I played this song on Coast. Now, check this out. Dave Grohl I'm going to quote Dave. Dave says about the song, The Sky is a Neighborhood, he says, one night I was lying out looking up at the stars, just imagining all of these stars as places that have life on them as well. (24:17) And I decided that the sky is a neighborhood, that we need to keep our bleep together in order to survive in this universe that is full of life. Dave Grohl, and he lives right here in Encino on top of this hill. He's got a great view of the stars. And the video, watch the video. The video is an ET contact video. (24:41) Yeah, absolutely. And it's incredible. That's just one example. And then look at and think of the influence of, you know, not only like Megadeth, going back to the carpenters or sticks, but today the Foo Fighters, hugely influential band. And then... You got Katy Perry, who might be bigger. What song did Katy Perry write, Christina? I know you've got it on your MP3 player. (25:10) It's on your songs list, right? MP3? We don't use those anymore. Oh, it's a CD player? Is that what... Close. Close. But with Katy Perry, she wrote a song. Shockingly, it was 13 years ago. And it was called E.T. And the whole song is about aliens. Obviously, it says that in the title. But with this one, it was written in 2011 with Kanye West. (25:38) And... The video, like the music video and the lyrics are all pertaining to life outside of our planet. And some of the lyrics go ready for abduction. Boy, you're an alien. You're touched so foreign. It's supernatural. It's extraterrestrial. And here we're looking between what we're seeing, the connection between extraterrestrials and life. (26:08) relationship and is it because this relationship is very foreign to her and it's just a regular person or is it actually extraterrestrial when you're dealing with artists there's all this creative freedom that you've got to like figure it out on your own but this particular music video is an interesting one just because you're able to see Katy Perry change consistently from different types of alien makeup and alien costumes more so than other music that that we've covered thus far pertaining to alien themed (26:43) music here's another image we're able to see her makeup with her uh contact yeah yeah remember see when this song came out I remember uh you know it's called et so immediately right you got my attention And I'm listening to it. I'm listening to the lyrics. And I'm listening to what Kanye is singing. (27:09) And then her parts. So Kanye's the alien. And she's the earthling. That's kind of the way the song lays out. But I'm listening to it. And I went back. Because you're picking up on all of the E.T. UFO stuff. language that is in there that we use. And there was this line. So I caught this one line in it about DNA. (27:42) And I went, wait, wait, wait, alien DNA. This is getting good. So I went back and jumped online and I got the lyrics and I'm listening to the song and reading the lyrics at the same time. And it turns out that this is the line that she sang in the song. You're not like the others. Futuristic lover. Different DNA. (28:07) Ah, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is there a message there? Christina, what do you think? What do you think? Is there a message? What is she trying to say? Once again, looking at celebrities and the amount that have had their own UFO sightings, some of them have even been tipped off. to our knowledge, by those that are familiar. (28:26) A great example of this is Muhammad Ali. During his time of fame, he had an interest in UFOs. He's had about 14 UFO sightings during his life. And he had mentioned that he knew someone in the government that was providing him footage and videos. And then he spoke out about it. in one of his interviews and people were laughing at him but the thing is there are a handful of other celebrities that seem to have that seem to be a little bit more in the know than your average person that they're able to incorporate into their art (28:59) pieces is it by design is it because of interest is it because of agenda this is and I'm going to keep asking this question because we don't fully have the answer and the reason why we're doing this show is asking the biggest question of Is media involved in some form of soft UFO disclosure? Are they using people like this to get people either ready for something big or to scare them of mere possibilities? Right, right, right, right, right. (29:30) And I was just thinking of Tom DeLonge. And yes, now, so here, when To the Stars came out, and the story behind To the Stars, To the Stars Academy, was always... Blink-182's Tom DeLonge, right? Blink-182's Tom DeLonge, Aliens to the Stars Academy. It was like that. Let's write the article. Let's talk about this. (30:03) It was always in that context because Blink-182 was bleeping huge in the 90s. I mean, right? And I still am. I mean, there's a way of writing and performing. And what they were doing, which was like this pop power punk. I don't even know if that's a classification of it, but it was commercialized punk. (30:36) And all of their choruses were just huge. And it takes a certain talent to understand how to write that and get it out to the masses. And there were a lot of bands at that time that were kind of doing the same thing, Smash Mouth and Green Day and Blink-182, where these choruses would come. And it's just these happy songs, punk, but then all of a sudden this chorus comes and the whole world is singing along with it. (31:09) Well, Tom was into UFOs the entire time. And if you really look at the lyrics, some of them aren't hidden at all, like aliens exist. What's that other one? Man, what's that other song? My stepmother is an alien or whatever. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. But so Tom, I just don't think he had. (31:40) I was never scared. And that's part of being a punk musician. You're never scared of the establishment or the man. You're going against the man. You're going against the establishment. And that's your job as a punk musician. And so you can't hide who you are. You show it on the outside. (32:02) You sing about it. You don't hold it on the inside. And so Tom didn't have any issues with extraterrestrials or aliens. or the government or three-letter agencies or disclosure or contact or abductions or aliens. He didn't have any problems with that. So it wasn't that much of a surprise that To The Stars Academy was set up and that he chose to walk away from the success of Blink-182 for a minute. (32:37) He went back to it. It's way too much money on the table not to. And I say that in the kindest of ways. But you go back and you re-examine Blink-182, and then you have to ask yourself how many people out there, how many fans were influenced by Tom's lyrics and the subject, and who chose to go and do their own research because of what he was singing and writing about. (33:08) Well, the same thing goes for movies where that also gets a lot of people's attention. And I think one movie that we might talk about first is Arrival. I think it's an appropriate movie because you get this sense of awe, but you also get this extreme sense of fear as well in the movie. it's it's one that I think people need to watch at least twice in their life not once but twice because there is a lot to it and how people would genuinely react how the situation would go how the military would react and all of (33:45) these things jimmy when you first watched the movie what was going through your mind were you attempting to dissect the agenda I know exactly what happened. That's a great question. Because I walked out of the movie theater and into the parking garage. I was with my ex. And we're walking through. And I said, that is. (34:12) has a hidden meaning that isn't that hidden. And I'm wondering if they know how to communicate, I'm talking about the government, with aliens. This is so far out there in its context that I think there's something real here. And that was the impact that it had. I'm going to tell you the impact this movie has had on me. (34:39) I watch it once a month. I watched it three nights ago, three nights ago, three nights ago. I watched it. I watch it all the time. That opening 10 minutes of the movie is so powerful. And she's a teacher at a college. And, and what is important here? I think the impact of the, yeah, the communication and the deciphering and figuring it out and talking to aliens and they turn out to be octopus hands is is crazy that that that part was was pretty nuts but that's not no it's the impact in the very beginning of the movie (35:20) when she walks into her classroom the classroom is empty you know the arena seating in on a college campus and there's a handful of students there and she goes where is everybody well today we're going to talk about portuguese and the romance languages And right then everybody's cell phones start ringing. (35:42) There's only like six students in the room instead of 200. And one of them says, can you turn on the news? So she turns around, slides the thing, the big screen TV, she pops it open, and it's CNN or Fox or whoever, BBC. And the ships have landed at eight different random locations around the world. And she stops, and right as she's saying that, the alarms go off for the school. (36:17) And you have to ask, is that how it could go down? Everybody knew. The room is empty. That means the majority of the students already got the news they weren't going into school that day. He missed the news, right? He drove to school. She didn't listen to the news. She didn't watch the news. She's oblivious to everything. (36:41) He walks into class saying, where is everybody? Okay, today we're going to talk Portuguese and the Romance languages. And she's oblivious to it. She spins around and sees it on the screen and you get to see her reaction. And I think that that is part of the impact that we would all expect and how It may happen to a lot of us where you miss the news and then you get caught by surprise because you're watching everybody else freak out. (37:10) And I think that's one of the messages for Arrival that I got and the impact. I really love that first 10 minutes of the movie. It's just incredible. If you're enjoying the show, hit the like button right down below. Right now we have 450 people watching this live, about 200 likes. So that means that like 200 of you are not enjoying it. (37:32) So if you are, hit that like button right down below. And I do want to say a big thank you to Lou. It says Hendrix was a contactee and Dolly Safran said that when she was little, she saw him playing his guitar on an E.T. craft. That's wild. That's a wild case. Yeah, yeah. Okay, now I'm going to throw it back to you. (37:51) Okay, so you brought up Arrival. I'm looking at the clock. We've got a lot to get through here. So I threw down a list of movies for me. And I want you to pick one and comment. But this is for the audience. We have... Asteroid City by Wes Anderson. Wes Anderson came out about six months ago. Incredible movie. (38:22) Mars Attacks, right? How about District 9? That's a movie that is not mentioned up front. That's a direct ET contact movie. Powerful. Under the Skin, Scarlett Johansson. How about Starship Troopers? And Killing Bugs. Yeah, yeah. How about Starship Troopers? And what about a movie like Galaxy Quest? I am waiting for you to read one of my favorite ones. (38:56) And you haven't read it yet. Well, these are my favorites. These are my... So you don't care about... None of my list here impacted you? No. Well, yes. Yes. But not the one that I'm thinking of. And I'm actually going to share my screen because now I'm turning red. I'm digging a bigger hole. (39:21) But it's this one. It's this movie that I love. Oh, that's a TV series. No, that's another category. It's a movie. It's several movies. It's several. That's what a TV series is. Several movies. This is Kyle Hood's end. Okay, let's stay right there. Let's stay right there. (39:46) Let's switch. Well, the thing is, Jimmy, with, no, hold on, hold on. We are able to see UFOs and aliens in topics of movies. We've even seen it in the Super Bowl when it comes to American football. But you know where we don't see it? Do you know where? Sumo wrestling. What's that about? What is it with you and sumo wrestling? Is it a ramen thing? Is that a ramen thing? Is it, is it wrestling is a cool sport and that there's no UFOs in it. (40:20) Yeah. And you know what? There's what, you know, what sumo wrestling needs. Sponsorship on those thong things they wear. They need sponsorships. And they get significant sponsorships. Do they really? Yeah. Right there? Does it say? The top-ranking sumo wrestlers are balling. I bet they are. I bet they are. I bet they are. (40:48) Okay, let's leave that right there. That's a whole other subject. Let's stay on childhood. Okay, so let's shift to TV series. So I understand. Childhood's End, which is on my list, by the way, okay, for TV series. Just, just so we're clear on that, this one of Arthur C. Clark's. Now I've got the book. (41:16) The book is like this thick. It's a short story, right? It's like 50 pages or something. Um, it's incredible how to make that story into a TV series. Uh, it's a three-parter, um, it seems nearly impossible because it's such a huge story. It's such a big idea, which is why I think why Rama hasn't been made into a movie yet or a TV series. (41:49) It's too big. It's too, it's too epic. And the same thing with childhood's end and childhood's end is, is emotional. It's powerful. The title, The End of Childhood, Childhood's End, is exactly what goes down in the movie. And there are some really gut-wrenching, heartbreaking moments in this film, including the ending. (42:12) And the ending is one of the heaviest endings that you can think of. And it's under the control of aliens. And that's, you know, I often, for those that haven't seen it, I don't want to give it away, so go and watch it. But, Christina, I used to say, there's no movie, there's no book, there's no TV series, there's no story that has a real ending. (42:48) It's always the fairytale Hollywood ending, right? You've got to end on a high note. You've got to have a high note. And it was something that I was always not only thinking about, but thought that maybe if I wrote something, I would write a real ending, an actual ending, how things work. It should end in a real-life story. (43:16) And that's what Arthur C. Clarke did here in Childhood's End. The ending of the movie is about as dramatic and as emotional as you can imagine. It tears at you, doesn't it? The ending? Oof. It does in some ways, but in other ways, I feel like it's relieving. Just because, first of all, you have all the children that are saved from this disaster of planet Earth. (43:44) While all of those that are adults, they don't They don't make it. But our future, our children. And so they do. And so I liked that part of the story is that some people were spared. But what was heart wrenching was that these entities that look like demons, what humans would classify as demonic, they are just doing their job. (44:07) That's all it is. It's just a gig, man. It's just a gig. And they don't even like it on top of that. Well, one of them, well, let's not give it away. But when that debate happens, right, on the deck of the starship at the end of the movie, yeah, one is, I think, feeling a little melancholy. (44:32) Yeah, he's kind of not happy about it. He's thinking about it. But not the other one. The other one was like, man, let's just press the button. Let's go. It's go time. It's go time. So, yeah, childhood's in. Okay, so other TV series, we have the obvious things, right? We have the X-Files. (44:56) And the X-Files had a huge impact on pop culture. And it became such a, it was, it got so big. The series, I don't think anybody really expected that kind of cultural impact. At the time, you had Friends and Seinfeld and these other things that were happening, and then along comes X-Files. And although I have always researched and wondered about these subjects and certainly often thought about somebody like a Mulder or a Scully, if there was something like this going on inside of the government, always thought about that. (45:41) Then I see the TV show and I was like, oh, man, holy crap. All right. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This is for me. And I remember going into work to my office and I'm walking. to my office. This is at Elisa's. I'm walking down the hallway and I'm passing some other offices in the cubicle and I go by the marketing department and I hear them go, yeah, so anyway, last night in the X-Files. (46:09) Yeah, right. Well, so, and I stopped and I went, you guys are watching that? Man, it's great. I go, You guys are into E.T. and government conspiracies? Oh, man, all that's real. All that's real. And that's what the X-Files did, right? The subject is cool. But it got people that normally wouldn't be talking about this around the office water cooler talking about aliens and government conspiracies and the paranormal and the supernatural around the water cooler. (46:46) And that was the impact of the X-Files. But then when you move on to other things, like right now, Christina, When you look at what is happening right now with three-body problem, we just ran through, what, two seasons, three seasons of People of Earth, Lost in Space, both the original version and the new version, which was pretty incredible. (47:16) The Expanse. The Expanse. The Expanse, in my opinion... and right now fallout is on and it started last night it's pretty incredible um but uh the expanse I feel and I don't I don't know if my opinion has necessarily changed but I thought that the expanse was like probably the best science fiction series ever made I think it's better it could be better than star trek any version right it it's there's a possibility there and that's that's strong that's strong language but that's (47:57) how powerful the expanse was but was it better than the twilight zone it's only one right answer to this jimmy could no no could be could be It could be. The Expanse is that good. Yeah, I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. It's blasphemy. It's blasphemy. It's heresy. Is it the same category as Star Trek and The Twilight Zone? Yep. (48:37) Yep. Ask anybody that has seen The Expanse. It's good. Ask anybody. I loved it. Ask anybody. Fringe, really good. Well, I guess Fringe could have a little bit of E.T. because they had the Watcher dudes. Right. Yeah, the men in black dudes. Yeah, I didn't really think about Fringe. What was that? Fringe was indeed what? Oh, where are you reading? Fringe was indeed awesome sci-fi. (49:25) Oh, yeah. Awesome sci-fi. Okay. Thank you so much for that. Oh, I just hit those at the same time. Yeah, thank you, Camp. Well, yes. Okay, so I knew that people were going to bring up things like Babylon 5 and Battlestar Galactica. Yes, those were... That was a really good era. V, Alien Nation. That was... What was that? Fringe is not what? But still cool? Look, it's not in space, but it's still cool, right? John Aside says, I never watched Fringe, but I will now. (50:12) Fringe, okay, I think it's what, five seasons? All right. I have probably binged Olive Fringe. I own it. I own it. I bought it. Probably five times. Wow. It's a commitment, too. I mean, five seasons. It's five years. And that's back when they were doing... Like 24 episodes a year, right? A season. It's like crazy. (50:44) But, yeah, it's really that good. But if we go back and we look at two, I think, very heavily impactful TV series, people want to talk about Star Trek, the original series, for sure. And then, of course, Strange New Worlds and Discovery and what is happening now. Yeah, all great. Next Generation. All that stuff. (51:09) But if we go back to 1972, 1973, there were two series, the same production company, by the way, that made both, UFO and Space 1999. Both of those series, they came out back-to-back. Jerry Anderson, I'm trying to think of his wife's name. She was the producer and costume designer on it. They were just incredible. (51:44) They were the ones that did... The Thunderbirds, the puppets. You don't remember any of that. Okay, but the Thunderbirds is really good too as well. But they turn around and they did Space 1999 right there. There it is. And UFO. And both of those were hugely impactful shows. And on me personally, they hit me at the right age. (52:12) And again, these are two TV series that I own and I watch. And then, so... Is there a hidden message here? And then you go all the way around and you advance to today, Christina, where you have the new TV series, The Signal, and Three-Body Problem, both dealing, both new, both huge TV series, and both are talking about contact from a signal. (52:48) And you have to ask yourself, is there a hidden message here? Is this part of a drip, drip, drip of disclosure? What do you think about that? It's the same thing like with that movie and then don't look up. It's very similar to that as well where you're having this kind of hidden message. There have been a few people that have touched on it stating that this could really happen. (53:11) It's already happened. But when we're looking at this detail of a signal when it comes to certain movies and TV shows like Contact, like Third Body Problem, and like the one I just mentioned, that movie, don't look up. When we're seeing something so consistent, it does raise a few eyebrows. And I think it was what it was either Stalin or it was Hitler that said, if you tell a lie or a piece of information so many times, people will start believing it. (53:45) When we're looking at these kinds of patterns, is it preparing people for something like that to happen? Or is it just all for fun, all for giggles? And that's it just for mere entertainment. I'd like to think that there's a bit more to the things that we watch than just mere entertainment. But that's just me. (54:07) Okay, okay. So then if we take that, and I 100% agree with you, but if we take that, that idea, that germ of an idea, right, and put it in a Petri dish and let it grow for a little bit, And then we look at the bigger picture, the bigger audience, the larger audience, and reaching out past that. Right now, three-body problem is on every billboard on Sunset Boulevard, right? And I just drove through Hollywood this weekend going up Sunset Boulevard. (54:46) It's three-body problem, three-body problem, three-body problem. It's the number one show on Netflix right now. That's as big as it gets. right and what's it dealing with well then peel off of that and then go to peacock and sci-fi network and look at the other what's the other number one show right now resident alien I thought it was going to do stranger things or something well that that's see that's so passe That was then. (55:20) I'm talking about in the now, now. What's the resident alien? And if you look at something like that and the impact that resident alien, this is outside of our community. Now, you and I get it. You and I get it. We watch Resident Alien and they're talking about the greys, right? They're talking about hybrids. (55:43) You see different types of reptilians and the invasion of Earth and why these other races want to take over Earth and knock off humans and this whole... All of the Giorgio Tsoukalos did a cameo, you know, in the first season. And they went to an alien convention. And you see what's going on. And you have the alien hunter on the show. (56:18) Now, all of that, you know, Daryl Sims, all of that is like the world of Christina Gomez. It's the world of Jimmy Church. It's Fade to Black. It's our community. We all get that. The rest of the world is watching this and hearing about shape-shifting reptilians for the first time. They're hearing about gray aliens for the first time. (56:44) They're hearing about star seeds for the first time. And all of these references that we get, they are hearing for the first time. And is that another way of disclosure for the rest of the world? They see this, and I've got to say, it's almost like a documentary series on the Learning Channel, right? On Nat Geo. (57:14) That's the way that this impacts me. It's like public television, but it's for the masses. And this show reaches a huge audience. It is something that a lot of people have been talking about. You're able to find articles on all the latest episodes when it comes to Resident Alien. You bring up some really great points. (57:35) It's these kinds of shows that are getting people to talk about it at the water cooler, just like with the X-Files. And... I think, which is merely a thought and thinking, I heard people tell me it's dangerous, but I do it anyway. When we're thinking about these things, it opens our minds to the very mere possibility. (57:58) We dwell on it. We spend hours. We watch entire seasons to get an answer, to find more. Maybe the plot is great. Sure. But when they drop little pieces of information, it gets people walking around. off of their couch, onto their computer, and looking a little bit deeper into the topic, or it just sits in the back of their mind until one day the conversation comes up, maybe at dinner, who knows what, and you're like, you know what, what's really interesting, I just watched Resident Alien and they mentioned this, (58:28) and then you have a whole conversation there. These things can stimulate the mind and can stimulate the imagination. But at the same time, not with Resident Alien, but maybe some other examples like the actual movie Alien or Predator, those entice a bit more fear than curiosity. And fun fact and great show today. (58:54) Fantastic, perfect show. A little fun fact for everybody. All right. I live in Hollywood. There is chatter right now going on in my town that Alien the movie is going to get released. Alien the series. We're going to do a TV series. It's going to be called Alien. What? Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. I'm just saying. (59:25) I'm just saying. I got a friend of a friend. Yeah, yeah. And it's a big production. Huge, huge production. So with that, Christina, another great week. I'll see everybody tonight on Fade to Black. John Greenwald. You know what the show was called tonight? Green Tea Fraps with Chocolate Chips. Fade to Black Vault. (59:53) Oh, that's fun. Do you like that? Do you like that? I do. All right. I'll see everybody tonight. Christina, great show. Everybody behave. I'll see you tonight on Fade to Black. Thank you. Bye. Another great show. This is so fun. Oh, and by the way, the person that had this idea to cover this show was none other, was none other than our friend Jimmy Church of Fade to Black Radio. (1:00:20) Surprised? I'll see you guys tonight. 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