Mysterious Mountains and UFOs

Show Transcript

Today, we will look into the world's most famous mysterious mountains from around the world, some of which are a hotbed for UFO sightings, while others are known for mysterious disappearances, eerie legends, and encounters with cryptids. Welcome to Mysteries with a History. We will be taken on a wild ride into the unknown, the strange, and the mysterious. (00:33) Like you, I have questions, and like you, I want answers. And with each episode together, we will peel away the layers to look for the truth. This is a really, really exciting topic. So let me bring in my co-host, Jimmy Church of Fade to Black Radio. Jimmy. You love doing that. You love doing that. She does it, man. (00:58) She's like you. I guess I know what to do when I just want to be brought in. Exactly. Make up, do my hair. You do the signals, you do the signals. And I'm like, okay, now I know that he's ready to come on. Let me, I'm excited about today's show, but not for what everybody thinks. I have to unclick my chair so I can rock it back. (01:25) Because we get to go back to our traditions for this show, which we have forgotten and have lost the last few episodes. I get to turn to you and say, where'd you come up with the idea for today's show, Christina? That's a great question, Jimmy. Yeah. So first, I have to preface this one, actually, because as many people know, a lot of our regulars here on this channel are aware that I graduated university with a degree in communication and business. (02:04) And I had told them, I said, as soon as I get my diploma in my hand, I'm going to tell my parents about what I do. They haven't known all this time. Do they know? I told them. And let me actually tell you their reaction. They yawned. Really? Oh, so you built up all this tense, all this. So here's what happened. (02:29) They were like, oh, that's cool, Christina. Like, okay, it's not, you know, really for us, but I'm glad that you're having a good time and you're doing into it. Did you give them links? You watched a few of our episodes together. Okay. These episodes that we do, you and I, I was like, I showed my parents and I said, so cool. (02:49) Check this out. And they're like, yeah, that's cool. And I said, so you guys, are you going to tune in every week? And they were like, no. you know what i'm just happy that you're happy christina all right all right okay so um so you graduated then so then that leads into your question okay right right right both my parents love mountains they love mountains and i said this would be a great topic to get them into it so Hi, guys. (03:21) Hi, Ma. Hi, Dad. Oh, really? Okay, so I have to behave and all that stuff? Okay. All right. They've already seen our shows, so they know what's up. They know what's coming. All right, all right, all right. Good enough, good enough. So, which also, I was thinking, and again, congratulations. That's a huge achievement for graduating and things. (03:51) But I was looking at this as possibly, because of the RV fund and everything else, that you're kind of scouting locations, too, as well. Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure, right? Oh, yeah. So it's killing two birds with one stone, but minus the killing part, where I do research for the shows, but also writing some stuff down. (04:16) And I set up going here, going here, going here, going there, going over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, okay. So some of these locations that we're going to be discussing today are here in the United States. And I know you've mentioned this a lot on the show, you know, destination number one, right? Top of the list. (04:38) And I'm assuming Skinwalker Ranch. But, you know, you have a list that you're mentally putting together. I do this all the time. And so some of these locations are here in the United States and not necessarily around the world. Now, let me start not with the location, but let me start with a general statement. (05:03) As most everyone knows, I have spent the last year or two traveling around the world. And one of the things that I enjoy the most is when you're out there with nature is nature. The mountains, hills, they're mystical. It can go back to Lord of the Rings for a lot of us. But when you see and the stories behind all of the legends of the past that center around mountains, mountains are majestic, they're huge, they're big. (05:46) And in some cases, you can't conquer them. There are still people think, and we're going to get to this, that everything has been climbed. No, it has not. And we're going to be talking about that today as well. So, but as I have traveled, the higher you get in these mountainous areas, the more the legends grow. (06:11) And I get that. I totally get that. And the reverence and the respect that the cultures have of these mountainous regions. But as the higher you get, maybe it's the lack of oxygen. I don't know. But the higher you get, the crazier the story gets. And I really enjoy that. So, yes, yeah, I'm absolutely intrigued, and I enjoy going to these places probably as much as anything. (06:45) The mountains, there's something so special about every single one of them. No matter what part of the world you're in, it's always these legends and how the people in that area respect the mountains more so than other parts, maybe like a desert or an ocean, which people respect oceans as well, but mountains, it just has this level of not only interest, but extreme respect for. (07:11) And so starting off with our first location being Mount Adams in Washington State. This is a location that has had its fair share of UFO sightings, cryptid sightings, strange disappearances. But Jimmy, what's so... Perfect. And what's so awesome about this particular mountain for you is that you've had an encounter there personally. (07:35) And I think that is a great place to start is with a personal story. So please. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Mount Adams, that whole area, by the way, and we're going to be talking about Mount Shasta, too, as well. But you have Mount Rainier, a collection of volcanoes in that part of the Pacific Northwest. (08:01) And there you can see Mount Adams there. Mount Adams, it's a volcano, okay? And you can see the volcano shape. And this view of Mount Adams right here, it is so in my head. Mount Adams to me has two peaks. You see the two, so the one on the left, the more rounded one, and then the other peak on the right. (08:27) And mountain climbers, They start on the right-hand side, and there's a base camp over where the tree line is, and they climb up the side of the mountain and then hike across and rope, and it's pretty treacherous. I think the mountain itself is 14,000, 15,000 feet at its peak, and that's pretty high, by the way. (08:53) But Mount Adams, this is Bigfoot country. Washington State is a bigfoot country. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so you have the Columbia River just south of there. Oh, by the way. DB Cooper, right? The hijacking that we have discussed before. This is where he jumped out of the plane, right? And the Columbia River, which is just south of here, it just adds more to the mystery of the area, right? That's where his cache was found, the DB Cooper cache on the Columbia River, which is just a few miles south of this view that we're looking at here. (09:38) But the Yakima Indian Reservation surrounds this area. Lots of Bigfoot sightings. Now, specifically, my beer can UFO sighting happened in this image that we're looking at here. Let's stop there for a second. I shared that experience with a group of people, and one of them sitting to my right during all of this was one Mr. Steve Murillo. (10:07) But prior to that... Steve went up with a couple of friends of mine and Michael Oming, the artist that does the Jimmy Church Fade to Black graphics. Michael Oming and Steve Murillo and a group went squatching. So they go up to the Yakima Reservation, and they hike on a trail, and they head up, and they find in like a cave area. (10:42) It's a cave. It's an entrance. They find some Bigfoot prints, and they make some casts. They also found Bigfoot prints along the trail and they were pretty massive. So Steve calls me, Christina, I'm on my way to film my TV show with the History Channel. I'm in the back of a car. I'm in traffic in LA early in the morning. (11:09) And Steve calls me on my phone, dude, we just got back from, we found Bigfoot prints. And he tells me the whole story on the phone. I said, man, I'm taping my TV show today. Why don't you come on the TV show? So Christina, I call my director. I call the producer. I call History Channel. I said, this is going on. (11:30) And Steve walks onto the set with a cast. It was this big of a big footprint. And this was kind of my introduction to Mount Adams. And now a couple of years later, Steve and I, again, right, are at Mount Adams. And we're sitting there. And that's when the beer can UFO happened. So looking at this image here. (11:59) All right. The peak that is on the right, I'm pointing at it with my finger like everybody can see me. Christina, move your mouse pointer to the right, the other peak, right there. So, yeah, zoom in, zoom in, zoom in, zoom in, zoom in, zoom in. That's what I see. You can back out a little bit. That's what I see in my binoculars. (12:21) Okay, move the image a little bit over to the left. A little bit. No, the other way. The other left. The other left. Move it over. Stop right there. Okay, so I'm with my binoculars. That's what I'm looking at. And I'm looking at birds are flying. I'm looking at nature. And at that moment in my blissfulness, out from behind that peak that you see right there, This giant, now I'm 14 miles away, but that's what I'm looking at in the binoculars. (12:58) And from behind the peak is this, and I've described it as a beer can. So here's my coffee cup. It's spinning like this and it comes out from behind the mountain. And it's spinning slowly like I'm spinning this. It's not spinning fast. And it's black. And on one side of it is a silver circle here. (13:21) And I can see that silver circle around. It's like silver on the top, silver on the bottom, black in the middle, shaped like a can. But at that distance, and seeing this now, the whole sighting lasted about 15 seconds. I jump up, I start screaming at the beginning of it. I see it. And video, video, video, video, pictures, pictures, pictures. (13:51) And everybody that is around us, they're like taking pictures. They don't know what they're aiming at. Steve next to me goes, oh, man, I see it. It's spinning. And it was. And I sit back down. Now, this is like five seconds later. And I sit back down, and I look back into the binoculars. And I'm looking at it. (14:15) And I, Christina, I freeze it in my brain. The sun is coming in. There's no clouds in the sky. It's just a blue sky. The sun is shining on it. I'm looking at it in the binoculars and it's razor in sharp focus. And I can see it. So I just look from top to bottom and I just get it. I don't want to forget. (14:42) Right. And I just look at it. It's spinning and it's moving from left to right. And I thought and it was moving so slow. that we were gonna look at this for the next hour as it moved across the sky. And so I get off the binoculars and I look at it with my naked eye. And it's tiny. In the binoculars, it's big. (15:09) It's 14 miles away. But you can see it spinning. And that silver thing, that round thing that's on it, watching the sun as it's spinning around reflect off of that was pretty remarkable. Anyway, I go back to the binoculars. And as I'm going to look into it, Steve says... It phased out. And I go, what? And I look, and it's not in the binoculars. (15:39) And I look back, it's gone. It's gone. It's gone. It's gone. And I don't have anything else to add. The part that was so disappointing for me is I'm glad that I saw it appear, but it came from behind the mountain. I would have rather have seen it phase out. That I didn't get to see. (16:08) And it happened in that moment when I went back to the binoculars and everybody said the same thing. It just phased out. Crazy, crazy. Now, and here's the other part about this area. This is where Kenneth Arnold had his first sighting in 1947. And he was flying past Mount Rainier when he first saw the group of, you know, now coined the term, right, flying saucers, flying towards Mount Adams. (16:44) And this cluster of volcanoes, and there's like four or five of them in a row, it's pretty interesting to hear Kenneth Arnold say in his accounts over the years, you know, I was flying from and flying past Mount Rainier and I followed them towards Mount Adams. And that, It's just part of the mystery of not only the Pacific Northwest and the Yakima Indians and Bigfoot and T.B. (17:15) Cooper, my beer can sighting, and all of the other sightings. I've had many, many, many, many sightings in this area. But it adds to the mystery, doesn't it? It does. And what's something that is a bit disappointing is when you're attempting to look up information about Mount Adams, you don't get a lot of people relaying their UFO sightings, even though it is classified as a UFO hotspot and people do have sightings. (17:46) They just don't report them. And that can be very detrimental to researchers. So for those that are listening, watching, If you've had a UFO sighting, please report it. It makes it much easier for people such as yourselves to go to these locations, collect data, and then hopefully have a sighting for yourself. (18:06) And so, first I want to say, Jimmy, thank you for sharing that story. I know you've shared it a handful of times on your channel, but we have so many new viewers and listeners that for many people, it's like, whoa, Jimmy had a sighting? This is insane. Especially since you classify the shape as a beer can. (18:22) In... I would say today's terminology might be classified maybe as cylindrical shaped, possibly. But when you're mentioning that it's a beer can shaped, are you referring to that in the front and the back it was completely flat while the middle was cylindrical? It was, you know, when it looked like a beer can. (18:42) That's exactly what it looked like. A black beer can. And it had the silver, I wouldn't say chrome, but silver top and bottom. And this round thing on the side just looked like a beer can logo. But there was nothing on it. It's of itself black. There was nothing to it. It was black, had the silver top, silver bottom, and the silver circle on the side that could have been anything. (19:16) From that distance, maybe it was something else, but it just looked like a silver circle. But there were no protrusions. There wasn't any writing. There wasn't anything. And I, Christina, I got a really good look at it. Okay, for a good five seconds, count one, two, three, four, five. I looked at it from top to bottom. (19:47) And like I said, it was crystal clear, razor sharp focus. It was amazing to see. It wasn't vibrating. It wasn't fuzzy. It wasn't moving fast. No, I got a really good opportunity to take the perfect gander. I mean, I just put it right into my eyeballs. And there was no wings, no exhaust. No, no, no. (20:15) Nothing like that. No. And when I say, this is exactly what I saw. Just... spinning, moving across the sky. I'll share this with everybody. When you least expect it, right? I'm just looking at birds. I'm looking at this majestic mountain. That's all that I'm doing. And then, boop, just popped up. (20:46) Just, I mean, I can't tell you what went through my mind. It was, oh, my gosh. Right? Just like hair standing. I mean, it was pretty crazy. This was also the location of the, what I call the hangar door, the opening. and that video, I haven't looked at it and checked it for a long time, but that video got millions of views, millions, and it was pretty remarkable to see that entrance, that doorway there. (21:31) Did an expedition, Expedition X went up there, and helicopters and everything else, but There has been some remarkable things that have been seen on top of that mountain. They went up there and insisted that it was just a discoloration. No, no, no. I photographed that and shot video and looked at it for days. (22:02) And you could see the debris coming out of it and floating down the mountain, which they did not see. So I don't know. I don't know. It's just mysterious. Could it be an entrance? Could it be a portal? Could it be a vortex? Lots of mysteries surround this part of the country for sure. There's also been some occasional reports of strange sounds heard from Mount Adams, from unexplained booms to even mechanical noises, adding to the atmosphere of mystery there, maybe even solidifying potentially what people would think would be a hangar in that mountain as well. (22:38) Because obviously, obviously, mechanical noises, they are not natural. They're called mechanical, right? So for that to just casually happen in nature, yes, it's a really big head scratcher. Now, could there be a military base in that mountain? It's a possibility. Could there be an extraterrestrial base? That would make anyone's day, if that were true. (22:59) Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a very special place. I mean, it's not just Mount Adams. It's that entire area between the border of California and Oregon where Mount Shasta is. We can't forget that's where the Patterson-Gimlin-Bigfoot film was done, right there. All the way up to the border of Washington and Oregon. (23:30) It's a big chunk of country, largely uninhabited, unless you're along the five freeway. It's nothing but forest and mountains and volcanoes. It's a very, very special area for sure. It is. And there are other locations across the globe that have very similar anomalies and mysteries happening in and around mountains, volcanoes, hills as well. (24:01) Jimmy, I will pass this next one on to you because I picked Mount Adams first. So which one do you want to cover next? We, you know, probably my favorite. You have a favorite? Okay, I was like, what? But Mount Kailash. Mount Kailash. Do you have an image of Mount Kailash? I'm going to pull it up. Because this mountain is probably the most beautiful mountain singular thing that you can see. (24:40) And this is, do you have another view? We can stay with this one. This one is my main one, and then this one's going to kind of lead into this. Look at that. Just take a gander. I've said gander twice in the same show, but that's what you do when you're talking about mountains. Mount Kailash stands at 21,778 feet. (25:14) That is high. I just got back from Peru. I got to 15,000 feet. I've been to Mammoth. That's tall. I've stood 21,778 feet. is high mount everest is just shy of 30 000 feet from being considered the abode of the hindu god lord shiva and being considered the center of the universe i'm going to get uh back to that in just a bit to being are you ready unclimbable Right. (25:53) It's also a hotspot for UFO sightings. There's lots of secrets and fascinating, mind-boggling stories that surround Mount Kailash, but it is also considered the spiritual center of the universe in Hindu cosmology. It is believed to be the Axis Mundi, the axis of the Earth, the cosmic pillar that connects the terrestrial realms with the divine realms, the center of the universe. (26:27) Now, despite that breathtaking beauty that you've got right here on the screen, Mount Kailash remains unconquered. It's an unconquered summit. And like I said at the beginning of this show, we would think, right, Mount Everest has been conquered. Hasn't every peak in the world, everything at this point been conquered? No. (26:57) This is an unconquered summit. Magnetic anomalies that are around this mountain have been detected in the region, and people lose their orientation. There's time slips. Witnesses claim to have observed UFOs maneuvering in and around the mountain. Some suspect a UFO base, an ET base inside of the mountain. (27:31) These objects also exhibit unconventional flight patterns, high speeds, sudden disappearances with people, but pilots Pilots not only have experienced lapses in times and time dilation, but they have claimed that they can't fly. So they try to avoid this mountain because of their instruments being interrupted. (28:03) and so this mount kailash is located in tibet and what's very unique about tibet is is you have the where the two religions meet with hinduism and buddhism and we're going to say prism is a philosophy it can be either or it just kind of depends on who you ask but getting pushing that to the side because mount kailash is home to lord shiva which is part of the trimurti with brahma vishnu and shiva But it's also said that that is the place where Shiva defeated the demon king, Ravana. (28:36) Now, on the other side, Buddhists believe that Mount Kailash is the place where Buddha Shakyamuni, which was the original Buddha, attained enlightenment. Now, when I say original, I'm referring to the one that brought the... the noble truths, the Eightfold Path to the world. That's what I'm referring to when I'm saying the original Buddha. (28:56) But so this mountain is so significant when it comes to these two cultures, these two religions. And so those that have attempted to climb this mountain, because there have been many people that have attempted and a lot of yogis and gurus want to go to mount kailash to hopefully attain enlightenment as well but here as the the alleged cases go is that those that have attempted to climb the mountain have encountered very strange phenomena included including rapid aging, mysterious disappearances, and dealing with time slips, as you had mentioned, Jimmy, as well. (29:39) And so when we're looking at this mountain compared to other ones, there's only less than a handful, at least to my knowledge, where, as the legends go, at least, is where when you climb a mountain, you are going to age more rapidly. And so that would mean that And again, my knowledge is very limited when it comes to this aspect. (30:00) But I'm going to assume here that it means it has to do with some type of dilation with time and also with gravity in order to believe that you are aging more rapidly. There have been people that have attempted to climb there saying that their hair grows faster, their nails grow faster, etc. They feel like they are getting older. (30:18) Now, could that all be psychological? In some aspects, yes. You might look at your nails and say, wow, they look so much longer than they did yesterday, right? It could just be from a state of mind. But if it is measured, then it would be a little bit more difficult to brush aside. But this location is very strange. (30:36) And it's also in an area... In Tibet, where it's restricted. It's restricted land that you can't just casually get on either. And that right there is very interesting. Yeah. Is that because of the respect to the spiritual side and aspects to the mountain? There's that part of it. There's another part with mountain climbers not conquering this mountain. (31:08) You would think that it would be a challenge. There is no recorded or documented history of anybody attempting to climb and get to the summit. Now, is that out of respect to the mountain, too, as well? And then you flip it over. And the description and experiences of people that have walked to the mountain where minutes can feel like hours, but the experience of the people that are not with that group, hours seem like minutes. (31:51) It's the opposite. So people come back off of the mountain. Man, we were up there for a couple of days. No, you weren't. You've been gone 15 minutes, right? But I grew a beard. Right? My nails are like... It's a very, very strange situation. And then you combine that with pilots and other explorers. (32:18) They can't depend on their compasses. Everything acts erratically. So you don't have a sense of direction. You don't have a sense of time. And combine that with the two lakes that are there... that absolutely have had historical references to UFOs and spirits and balls of light entering and exiting these lakes. (32:47) And these stories go back way before modern times. These stories go back thousands of years, Christina. You bring up a really great point about that, about the lakes there, about UFO sightings. I know that Sadhguru did some videos while he was there in Mount Kailash and right next to the lake as well and referring to UFO sightings. (33:13) And that is something that I know caught a lot of people's attention that follow him, that looks on his YouTube channel. For me, it caught my attention when he brought up that with UFOs. I said, whoa. that's taboo right there. I bring it in religion, extraterrestrials, they're going to be twisting a lot of underwear there. (33:32) Yeah. Yeah. It goes back thousands of years, you know? So way before the concept of ET, you know, which is pop culture, modern culture and, and, and science fiction. No, the reports of this go back millennia. And that's why it's a location that has to be addressed, especially today when talking about the mysteries of the mountains around the world, because this is one that just had its fair share of sightings, not just for 10, 20 years, but as you said, for millennia. (34:07) And it's also it's. It's sacred. It's deeply respected. And that just adds another layer of intrigue, I think, for a lot of people, especially in the Western part of the world. And so when we're looking at this image, which this image, by the way, is AI generated. I just want to mention that. (34:28) But it looks very similar to the actual Mount Kailash image. When we bring in the aspects of myth, of religion, people say, oh, it's just that. We don't have to look any deeper into it. But for many researchers that look into this, there is, as they say, a nugget of truth behind every myth and every legend. (34:52) Could that be the case here? And then the question would be, why? Why are you bringing in ET with these religious figures? Or could it be that these gods have been misinterpreted as ET or vice versa? All that perception. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How many times? That's why I love our community so much. (35:21) in that we have been postulating and thinking about that aspect of things forever, right? And now, I think that more and more people are understanding and opening up their minds to that just maybe these references in religious text in the past are E.T. They didn't have another word for it then. And the other part about it, and then we can move on, we'll pick another location. (35:56) Here's the other part about it, is that... So many believe in angels or higher powers or deities and so forth and steadfastly believe in that. Great. But they have issues with E.T. and ghosts. It's like, wait a minute here. You can't have it both ways because... I think that there is a general fear of that everything is connected. (36:27) Oh, wait a minute. What? Right. And yeah. And I think that science is slowly going to pull us in that direction. We're just talking about the same things. We've just got different names for it. And that's where the confusion lies. It's those titles that just kind of throw people off and say, no, it's not yours, it's mine, or what you're talking about is totally different from what I'm talking about, but it has the same characteristics and just a different name. (36:53) Before we move on, I do want to mention just very quickly about the Shambhala land or city or town. Let's go to Shambhala. You know about it? That's exciting. I do. I do know about mental today. When I was a kid, this was a long time ago, but I hope your parents are still watching because they'll laugh about this. (37:17) There was a band called Three Dog Night. All right. And on this album, we're talking about 1970. They had a song called Shambhala. Now, the whole album was great, but that song stuck out for me. And I read the lyrics and everything. And it's about Shambhala. And everything that we know about Shambhala today is in that song. (37:50) And so I have always been on my own mystic quest for Shambhala. because of that song and it has has meant so much to me and so i've chased it down and i've studied shambhala over the years and i've watched the movies and i've read the stories but yeah there is a lot of historical reference to shambhala and quite a few trips to go and find this place uh where do you think it is christina No one's been able to find it, but it's believed, as the rumors go and the stories that date back centuries, that it is somewhere in the Himalayan mountains and in between. (38:32) So it's like in between the Himalayan mountains and the Gobi Desert, possibly. But I'm bringing it up because it's in a similar location as to Mount Kailash with a similar aspect to... to it where you are bringing in this aspect of religion but what's really interesting about the place as the rumors go because no one's actually been or those that have gone did not return or did not tell the story of how it went but it's believed to be a location a town of absolute peace of harmony some believe that it's it's a take you into a different realm it's like a gateway to another location maybe um (39:14) Actually, who knows, right? But it's been passed down. The Dalai Lama has talked about it as well, but it's been passed down by Buddhist monks and by Hindu practitioners as well, talking about this location. But it's mainly a mystical Buddhist kingdom that is said to exist between the Himalaya Mountains and the Gobi Desert. (39:37) And it's where people can go to achieve enlightenment, right? possibly and it is the embodiment of tibetan buddhist perfection as well you have uh i watched a movie i talked about this on on fade to black last year the name of the movie escapes me right now um 1955 or something this movie came out and i just happened to find anyway about a plane crash These people, these tourists, they take off. (40:10) Whatever happens, a plane crashes in the Himalayan mountains, and they're freezing cold, and the plane is in the snow, and this guy comes out of nowhere, right, with the staff, and he's why he comes up and rescues them, and they follow. There's like 20 people on this plane, and they follow them through the mountains and comes up to this cave. (40:32) They go through the cave, and they pop out the other side. Ha! shambhala right and it's green it's lush and it's full of all of these enlightened people and and it's a it's a it's pretty good it's a pretty good movie but uh but it's movies like that and the stories behind this that expeditions um have have been done uh nicholas and helena rorich led an expedition in 1924 Through 1928, four years, didn't find it. (41:12) In 1925, Gleb Baki, the chief Bolshevik cryptographer and one of the bosses of the Soviet secret police, along with his writer, Alfred Alexander Barchenko, they also went on a quest to find Shambhala. Didn't find it. That was in 1925. Hitler, we all know the stories, right? Hitler sent one expedition after another into the Himalayas, not only to find Shambhala, but they were trying to find Agartha. (41:48) The inner earth, right? The entrance to the hollow earth. And they thought it was somewhere between the Himalayan mountains and the Gobi desert. They didn't find it either. Does Shambhala exist symbolically? Sure. Sure, sure. Enlightened perfection and the achievement of this. Well, that's always the goal. (42:16) So, yeah, sure. Symbolically, I think it existed. Dr. Strange references Shambhala. Yes, yes. Very well played, Mark. Absolutely, absolutely. Who's the Asian guy? And Doctor Strange is always the hero in each of the... Okay, it doesn't matter. Moving on. But I think he's from Shambhala. i will say if you are enjoying the show thus far hit that like button right down below we're gonna move on to our next topic jimmy picked that one so i'm gonna pick the next one of course we have to just barely touch on the brown mountain lights in north carolina of course mount shasta as well superstition mountain these are all in the united states they're all very famous ones (43:09) And so I'm just going to very quickly touch on the Brown Mountain lines for those. I'd say, how could you do this show and not talk about those several ones that I just mentioned? I hear you. I got you. But hopefully we're going to be covering some ones that you didn't know about. Never heard of. (43:23) Those are my favorite comments. When you say Christina, Jimmy, I never heard about this one. Like that's the highlight of my day. Okay. But I, I will touch on the Brown Mountain lights, which is in North Carolina and, And it's a longstanding and enigma