IS THIS PROOF? UFO Sightings Across the Globe

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We always hear about UFO sightings in the United States, but it's more of a rarity to hear about UFO cases from around the world. And this show is dedicated to exactly that. So I hope you brought your passport because we are about to travel the world, flying to each continent, looking at as many cases as we can in 90 minutes. (00:32) So make sure to comment on your favorite case and stay to the end. Welcome to Mysteries with a History, where you'll be taken on a wild ride into the unknown, the strange, and the mysterious. Like you, I have questions, and like you, I want answers. And with each episode together, we will peel away the layers to look for the truth. (00:52) I'm really excited for this episode because I am an avid traveler, at least on the mental plane, but with me is a world traveler along with being my co-host, Jimmy Church of Faded Black Radio. Jimmy, happy Thursday. How you doing? I'm doing pretty snazzy. You know, hello, everybody. So, Christina lets me know. (01:19) This is what we're going to do on the show. We're going to cover every UFO case in the history of the world. What? How long do you plan? What? She says, man. Man. Making me do homework. Man, do you miss school already? You just want to be the teacher now? Have you seen Paul Giamatti, the new movie that's out, The Un... (01:57) Where they have to stay over during Christmas. The kids that don't get to go home to their family on Christmas with Paul Giamatti. You haven't seen it? You've got to watch it. It's an amazing film. It's an amazing film. It's an amazing film. Reminds me of you. Okay. We've got a long, long list of stuff, and we have covered some of these, maybe most of them, in depth. (02:25) But I like what we've got presented here as far as worldwide UFO cases because we Some of them are out front for sure, but others are not on this list that are always covered. Every time, Christina, I get a new book on UFOs, there's a new TV show out, right? And it's like the first thing, Roswell. (02:50) It's like, there's other stuff out there. There's so much. It's so much, so much. And so, no, we're not covering Roswell today. No, we're not doing that today or anytime soon. But Jimmy, aren't you going to ask your ritualistic question before we get into today? Yeah. Why? Why put me through this? Okay. (03:19) Well, number one, you love doing these shows with me. I do. But number two was last week we covered the Arrow report going into a deep analysis. And it was pretty devastating. It wasn't that great of a report in many ways and many aspects. And I didn't want and I do not want that report to – discourage people to stop keeping their eyes on the skies. (03:43) And the thing is that you cannot cover up UFO history, UFO cases, the UFO phenomenon, because UFOs have been seen across the world for centuries. And it seems like no country is safe. No continent is safe because every single one has seen a UFO at least once during their time. as a country. So this show is really to display to everyone that watches that just because maybe you're not living in the United States, your country still has so much to offer when it comes to the strange mysteries and even UFO sightings. (04:22) Of course, we will be also covering the United States because we have to. It's It's a must, but we'll be looking at as many countries as possible and all the continents as possible in 90 minutes. And here's the catch for today's episode, Jimmy. Are you ready? I'm really excited to share this with you because since we have a lot of cases to cover in a very short time, I'm only putting a timer on and we have four minutes or so to cover every single case. (04:49) And once we hit that limit, we have to move on to the next one. It's like an egg timer. You've got a little egg timer. No, I don't have one of those. I just have a phone. Phones are amazing. They have all of these gadgets and apps. You bring up a really, really good point about the Arrow report. And you're spot on the money. (05:13) The author of that report, Sean Kirkpatrick, the author of that report was probably hoping that people would read the report and go, ah, oh, okay, UFOs aren't real. I mean, honestly, you know, where they would just go, okay, we can move on. Okay. All right. Thank goodness this report is here. All of my questions are answered. (05:38) That's a really, really, really, really good point. And thank you for making that. Missed the target on that one, I would think. But, yeah, yeah, absolutely. That was the intention or part of it for sure. Okay. So. Oh, let me, who's going to go first? And how are we going to, it doesn't matter to me where we start, which country. (06:09) Let's not start with the United States. No, I'll let you pick the first country. I will share the image and I have the timer on my phone giving us three and a half minutes to cover each case. Okay, let's start with one of my favorite cases in the history of everything. No, go ahead, take a guess. Because we've been doing this show for some time now, and you have one all-time favorite case, and I know this one. (06:40) Oh, you think you do? I think I do, and correct me if I'm wrong, Jimmy, because that's what you do. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Just so we have proof, I am going to write the name here, and then you're going to guess. Okay, go ahead. Everyone, use your remote viewing skills. (07:07) Ready? Frederick Valentich. Oh, oh. That's your favorite case. I know that. Wrong. Wrong. But the country is correct. Westall. We're going to start with Westall. Okay. All right. But Frederick, so let's just stay in Australia. So you're not wrong, actually. You're not wrong. Well done. I know I'm not wrong. (07:33) Well done. Well done. Well done. Let's start with Westall. Okay. Wait, before you do, let me put on the timer. Three and a half minutes. She's really going to do this. Okay. Westall, 1966. Now, I will say this. The documentary Westall 1966 is an excellent resource for everyone. Go and watch that documentary. (08:04) I have watched that documentary countless times. I used to fall asleep to it. It is that well presented. Over 200 students watched. saw and witnessed this. Not only that, they call it a high school. I think it was all grades because some of the kids were very, very young. You had a science teacher. You had men in black. (08:32) You had the United States Air Force. You had... The Australian Air Force involved with this. The craft came down, landed in a field. Students ran out, went up to the edge of a fence line and observed this. The craft then took off, landed in the town square, landed in the middle of the street. There is a very famous photograph that is in James Fox's film two films ago. (09:05) where it is shown for the first time. So we have that. We have one of the best parts about the case, Christina, and I would love to hear your take on this, is that it was reported in the local media and the TV reels, the news that was shot in the interviews, went missing. And that's another part of the case for me that has always been very, very fascinating. (09:37) The students, including the teacher, but they're all still with us. This is 1966. And so to hear them talk about the case today and how it affected them and changed their lives is utterly fascinating. I think the Westall case of 1966 is one of the most fascinating cases that we have in all of ufology, and it happened in Australia, not the United States. (10:10) Another really big thing to mention while we have a minute on the clock. And that is what's really bizarre about this particular case is that right after the sighting, the police came to the school and allegedly they said, no one's allowed to talk about this. They confiscated pictures and video. And that's why maybe the video went missing. (10:29) And they were even threatened. Both the teachers and the students were threatened that if they were to speak out about this, bad things would happen to them. And this is just one scare tactic that we've seen a lot with like the men in black. But when you're dealing with children, it's a different ballgame. (10:46) And they didn't talk about it. Well, they drew it out. It was recorded on the newspaper. But then we had James Fox's documentary that went into more detail on it. And it really shifted people's perspective when it comes to children, schools and UFO sightings. Jimmy, you have 10 seconds. Do you want to add anything to that? The science teacher took pictures. (11:10) His camera and film roll were confiscated, and so we never got to the bottom of that as well. It's a well-documented case, and it's a big one. It's one of my favorites. Now let's get on over to Frederick Valentich, your second favorite case, which I am shocked that it's not your number one. (11:33) I felt like I just lost brownie points there. No, you didn't. You didn't. You didn't. It's a fascinating case. And continue. And it's Australia. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Very strange case. Frederick, are we running another timer? Here we go. Starting now. Now, as we go through these cases, I want everybody to kind of make a mental note here. (12:04) There is a high prevalence, not all of them, But high prevalence of cases in the fall. It's like October, November. You pick the year. But it's always, and this is another case that's in the fall. So it was October 21st, 1978. 20-year-old Frederick Valentich takes off in his plane. He was getting his pilot's license or had just gotten it and was able to fly solo. (12:45) He takes off and he radios in to Melbourne Air Traffic Control that he was being accompanied by by an aircraft about 1,000 feet above him in that his engine began to sputter, to run roughly. And his last radio dispatch to Melbourne Air Traffic Control was, I'm quoting here, it is not an aircraft. He was never seen again. (13:23) No, he wasn't. And what's really interesting about this case as well is that while he was in communication with air traffic control for about five minutes describing what he was seeing and the fact that he was being followed by a UFO that he described as not being an aircraft. And then it was followed by 17 seconds of metallic scraping sounds before the transmission ended. (13:48) There was a significant search and rescue team looking for him, one of the biggest in Australia, and they couldn't. came out with nothing, no craft, no body, no evidence, no debris, nothing. Nothing was found of him. And that's why this case is just one of the most famous when it comes to Australia, next to Westall, of course. (14:12) And it's one that captures a lot of people's attention because you have a UFO sighting and a strange disappearance. And so people... like to place connections between the two. Is it a possibility? I think so. The thing is that there are no such things, no such thing as coincidences, at least in my world. (14:31) And so for these to happen back to back simultaneously or even in the same category really does stand out from a lot of other UFO sightings. What makes this case so unique and for me so compelling is he's 20 years old. It's very hard to disappear somebody, right? It's 1978. You can't disappear a person in a plane. (14:56) This is 1978. It's not 1949. This is modern. So you would have the plane. If it was a hoax, and a lot of people have tried to go in that direction with this, and that is something that we always should do, right? Is this somebody up to a prank? But the plane was never seen again. It didn't land anywhere. (15:20) You can't just land an airplane somewhere and then hide it. He was never seen again. And the plane was never seen in the water. And there was a huge search and rescue. So do we just take this at face value, which is it was a UFO and he was abducted? The plane was abducted? Is this like... close encounters of the third kind? I don't know. (15:49) It's just an interesting case that nothing was resolved in the end. Plane was never found. The wreckage wasn't found. Body wasn't found. Nothing, just gone. And his last words were, it's not an airplane. So where do you go with this? It's an amazing case. The next country we're going to go to is Iran, very specifically the Tehran UFO incident that took place back in 1976. (16:21) I put on the timer and this took place in September. So Jimmy called it this time frame. Fall, autumn is when people are having significantly more UFO sightings, especially with these more famous ones. They happen during that time frame. And so you have the Imperial Iranian Air Force, and they were alerted by civilian reports of unusual lights in the sky, leading to the deployment of an F-4 Phantom II jet for investigation. (16:50) And here, what we're seeing on screen for those watching this on YouTube is the... Pilot Jafari, who was tasked to follow this aircraft that was seen in the sky and to shoot at it, to shoot AIM-9 missiles. And it failed. Obviously, how many times have we heard that when pilots have attempted to shoot at a UFO, they almost never hit it? And what's even more bizarre about this particular case is that when Jafari was following this larger UFO, a tiny one comes out and starts chasing him to the point where they almost (17:28) have a near collision moment. But luckily for Jafar, he was able to do a nosedive and just barely missed the craft. So here we're seeing on screen Jafari and how he described the UFO to look while he was in the sky. And this was significantly investigated by the Iranian government. There were documentaries about it. (17:51) There was even a movie that was created by the Iranian government as well, which is really interesting. And it's just another case where we could almost classify this. Correct me if I'm wrong, Jimmy, but we could possibly classify this as a Foo fighter and pilots. have seen so many strange things in the sky that it would be very easy for them to identify a weather balloon, to identify Venus or Jupiter or any other planet. (18:21) astronomical things in the sky. And for him to say it was a UFO to go on record to put his credentials on the line. That's why this particular case is held with such credibility more so than maybe a few other cases. Well, we have all of the military documentation and records of his flight, the radio communications, radar, lock-on. (18:52) And now the case gets crazier after he lands, if you can imagine that. But he, the moment... He went to fire. He locked on the target, and he was pulling the trigger. All electronic systems failed. Radio fails. The cockpit goes dark. He pulls off of the UFO. Everything comes back. When he lands, the United States Air Force is there. (19:21) They're waiting for him. They know about this, the Air Force, the United States. Now, at that time, our relationship with Iran today is strained. And that's a word, at best, is strained. But back then, Iran and the United States had a wonderful relationship. And the United States Air Force, this wasn't an American plane. (19:48) This was an F-4 Phantom. And so the United States Air Force knew about everything that was going on, and he got debriefed by the United States Air Force at his moment of landing. I think that there are many researchers out there, like James Fox and others, that look to the Tehran 1976 UFO incident as one of the best historical cases in all of ufology. (20:22) I have to agree with that. Getting on to our next one, let's move on over to Turkey. Jimmy, take this one away. You're very familiar with this particular case. Now, we just... Okay. This case, now, if everybody would like to take the deep dive with this, Christina and I covered this case a couple of months ago and spent almost an entire show on it. (20:52) And now this case, which again... It took place in the fall. There are two years of filming that happened with this case. And the videos are hours long. I have watched them and just freeze-framed and just... trying to understand what I was seeing. The fact that these were taken a year, year and a half apart is absolutely fascinating. (21:31) So what we have here, this is June 12, 2008. Do you have the 2009 images? I only have these just because our time is limited, but I can pull it up. That's fine. That's fine. But they are very, very similar. Now, what is crazy about the case is that Dr. Roger Lear was involved with the filming of this. He's no longer with us, but he was a UFO researcher, dealt with implants, based in Los Angeles, California. (22:05) And he was one of those. Now, the videos of this were turned over. They were secured. There was a whole process that was involved. So I'll say this, that the video itself, is real now what is in the videos what what was captured there well upon enlargement of of certain sequences it appears to now when I first saw this myself uh 15 years ago I'm guessing when I first saw these when they were first released I froze I went that's That's an alien gray. (22:51) And you can see it. And it was so fascinating for me to back because everybody caught the same thing that I did. And it looks like you can see two ETs. I saw one first and then going back, there are two heads side by side in like a window. And it's utterly fascinating. I don't know what to make of this case. (23:18) The fact that they were shot a year apart, it makes it even more fascinating. The distance, the security guard that shot this had a camera that had like a 200 times optical lens on it. and he was shooting this object on the horizon so the line that you see here christina see the black line right the block that's the water so this craft is over the horizon you understand what I'm saying okay so you have the ocean And this object is behind the horizon and popping up. (24:01) So it's 12 miles away. That's why we are able to see it in such detail. It's because of the 200X lens that he happened to have on his camera. Oh, you're muted. Thanks. That's what makes this case so significant is that camera footage is having a security guard speak out about it, going into more detail on what he was seeing on multiple occasions as well. (24:30) Getting into our next one, we're going to move on over to Asia, very specifically to Vietnam. I'm going to share my screen here because I'd like to stay on the topic of the Foo Fighters and pilots seeing very strange things in the sky. So I'm going to share my screen here. I wish I could be faster, but that's not a possibility when you're doing stuff live. (24:56) OK, so here it is. Here's an image starting the timer because the Vietnam War was just a time, as many of you know, of great uncertainty and turmoil. And amidst the chaos, there were all of these stories of strange UFO sightings and it began to circulate among soldiers. Let me just emphasize this. There have always almost always been UFO sightings during war. (25:23) OK, just putting that out there. And so while many of these accounts referring to people seeing strange things in the sky remain unverified, they have become part of the truly like the folklore surrounding the conflict between pilots and UFOs, just war in general. and one of them there was this one crewman by the name of norman burns and he had a very bizarre encounter with a ufo near the end of the war so in 1974 burns was serving in the area and he was patrolling the Indian Ocean. (26:00) And one night he and his friend stood on the ship's deck and they noticed another vessel right in front of them, leaving a trail of glowing phosphorus algae in its wake, which is so awesome. And then suddenly the luminescent trail intensified and a massive, I mean, massive ball of light, estimated to be about 30 to 60 meters or about 150 to 200 feet in diameter, burst forth from the water. (26:31) And this orb rolled over the ship before plunging back right into the ocean. And so Burns and his fellow crewmen were just left in awe, in absolute shock, unable to identify the strange phenomena that they had witnessed. Could it have been a whale or a dolphin or who knows what? And the answer, at least to them back in 1974, was no. (26:56) It had no conventional explanation. But there have been some other things that have taken place because that first one was a USO. But getting into a little bit more into the Foo Fighters, because back in 1951, there during the secretive, you know, Project Grunge that was mentioned in the Arrow report. Pilots during this time frame were seeing strange lights in the sky, strange orbs being chased by these balls of light while flying in the sky. (27:26) And according to Green Barrett, Captain William English, he was dispatched to Laos in the 1970s to investigate a B-52 bomber that had gone down under pretty mysterious circumstances. And upon locating the aircraft, English found it in really good condition, which is let me emphasize that it was in really good condition. (27:50) And with the only expected damage, you know, like what he was expecting was there to be a lot of damage on this craft because it crashed. But it was in perfect condition. But here's the crazy thing about that particular one, at least according to him, allegedly, is that he discovered that the crew still strapped in their seats were misfigured and mutilated despite no visible damage to the cockpit. (28:17) And this kind of sounds familiar, somewhat similar to the Philadelphia experiment. And when we're dealing with war, a lot of strange experiments do take place. Could this have been manmade or could it have been something a bit more sinister? Jimmy, please answer that. Well, that case is a fascinating case. (28:39) And talking about Vietnam and Cambodia and everything that was going on there, you're absolutely right. The Foo Fighters didn't end in World War II. And always being seen in times of conflict is very, very interesting. And this B-52 case, this plane just showed up in the jungle. Now, you would have trees and a jungle canopy, and you would have destruction of the craft. (29:13) It didn't. It was just sitting there. Now, according to the eyewitnesses, the plane wasn't even scratched. You know, it was like it was just placed there. And that was the comments. And this is where I really miss Clifford Stone. His research, of course, his time in the military in Vietnam, but his research into the subject, he had piles and piles and piles of documents about crash retrievals, ETs, bodies, contact in Vietnam. (29:49) And there was one other case. I'm looking at our timer here before we run out. Yes, you had USOs, you had Foo Fighters, you had objects in the sky. But there was also a battle with E.T. that took place in a valley there where they were shooting and getting shot at. By craft. So, yeah, the Vietnam War and the contact with Foo Fighters, like the 1976 Tehran case, it continues during times of conflict. (30:24) I'm just fascinated with that. Still staying on the topic of Asia, let's get on over to Japan, covering their most famous case of all time, being the Utsuru Bune. Let's pull this image up. I mean, it is the most well-known UFO case in Japan. Well, the second well-known. And this took place back in 1803, where, you know what, Jimmy? I like the way that you tell the story. (30:52) Well, okay, this is my second favorite case. Yeah. And what—okay, let's back up before this. This happened in 1803. This craft had washed ashore. The villagers come out. They get greeted by a female occupant speaking a strange language that they didn't understand. They take her back to the village. They get her healthy. (31:18) They put her back on the ship and send her on her way. But that's not— for me, the most fascinating tie in with this. If you go back now, quote me, go back into your history and look at the Japanese culture and their, or all cultures have an origin story. Every one, right? Well, the United States has got theirs, right? If you go back to the origin story of the Japanese people and the islands there, They came from the stars, right? That's a very fascinating part about not only Japanese history and deep history, (32:04) but fast forward to 1803 and this incident and the way that the craft was discovered. And I call it a craft because... Boats are boats. You have a keel, you have a mast, you have a sail. This is 1803, okay? So there's no engines, but the windows were covered. There were crystal windows that were there. There was steel grating. (32:35) And it was described very, very accurately by the villagers and the historians of the day. What you're looking at here is like a newspaper, a document, and that described the female occupant and the ship itself. And you can see the steel grating on the windows. The windows were also described as being crystal and crystal clear. (33:05) And, yeah, I don't know. It's not a boat. It's not a submarine. It's not, you know, so I'm going UFO. I'm kind of okay with that. But the interesting part is they put her back on board and pushed it back out to sea. And here, what the fishermen were seeing, at least as the story goes, was this really strange engravings, these very strange hieroglyphs. (33:32) And what was more bizarre to them, this took place in 1803, the entity that these fishermen were seeing, she was very pale. She had red eyes, not red eyes. red hair and red eyebrows, and she had this box in her hand. When the fishermen were attempting to speak to her in Japanese, she wasn't able to address anything back to them. (33:55) Now, what these people did notice was that the material of her outfit also looked rather foreign. it didn't match cotton or silk at least to their eyes it didn't look like it was a material from planet earth as the story goes and so they were very nervous they said if this person can't talk to us she looks very different than we do maybe we shouldn't keep her here and so like you had mentioned jimmy they sent her back on her way back into the ocean and she was never seen again. (34:28) There were a handful of books written about it. A few decades after, I think it was eight years, between eight years and 15 years, where the story was becoming more prevalent to people. And so we don't have like an inaccurate depiction and storyline as, like I said, the books were written just a few years after the case. (34:50) Right now we have 528 people watching. If you're enjoying the show and all the cases that we're covering in a very short time, hit that like button right down below. Let's get to 300 likes if and only if you're enjoying the show. Jimmy, did you want to add anything to that before we move on? It's just, it's a fact. (35:08) Look, we have to go. You and I were talking about this a couple of weeks ago. And one of the most fascinating, if I have a list of criteria, right? Well, today we have flying things all over the place, right? Okay. All right. But when you go back before 1900, when nothing was supposed to be in the skies, right? hot air balloons. (35:34) This was a new thing. And that was in France. You go before 1900, you get into the 1800s before 18, there was nothing in the sky, but birds. and bees that's it there's nothing else there so what were people seeing and you go back to 1803 and you have a description like this I am fascinated with that and the further you go into deep history with these cases when nothing was supposed to be in the sky you have to ask yourself right they didn't have movies they didn't have things to uh pollute or contaminate the mind (36:14) They didn't have that. They didn't have a communication network, Christina, to share these stories. Remember when we were covering the cases over in Switzerland, how they were happening in England and Switzerland and Italy and France, just about the same time with craft that were very, very closely described descriptions of being the same craft and this phenomena going on in the sky. (36:43) Well, you don't have a communication network to share these stories that quickly. You can't go from the UK to Switzerland in a week with a story. It doesn't happen that way. So what was it that they were seeing in the skies? The further you go into deep history, stuff being seen there, that really, really catches my interest. (37:07) It does for a lot of people. And for those interested in cases that date much farther back, Jimmy and I did do an entire show on ancient, not really that ancient, but before the year 1903. And looking at all of those UFO cases across the globe yet again and trying to give an explanation when... artificial things weren't flying in the sky that were created by man. (37:33) Jimmy, let me ask you this. Where do you want to move to next in the world? Where do I want to move to next? I want to move to Barcelona. Oh, you mean UFO stories? Oh, oh, oh, oh. I'm looking at property in Barcelona. Nice. Better get that Spanish call polished up. Let's go to... Man, we could do so much here. (37:59) All right. Let's go to... Okay. All right. All right. All right. All right. Let's go to our friends in the great white north. We have a country above us. Yeah. Here. It's called Canada. I think I've heard of it only once. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they've got great syrup. S (38:32) o we have... And you know the thing is... The thing is... Canada just behaves. That's why nobody knows. Canada is just always kind of... Right? Right? Just doing their thing. They behave. Great people up there. So there is a country up there, Canada, with two, not one, two, more than that, but two of the biggest cases. And they're not talked about like they should be. (39:10) So I want to start with Shag Harbor. And the thing is about Shag Harbor, now we don't have this with the 1803 incident, but Shag Harbor, October 4th. Yeah, October 4th. I don't know what's going on with the fall and sightings like this. Shag Harbor... Documented military, civilian sightings, radar, commercial flights. (39:45) You've got everything involved with this. And it went on for days. It wasn't just like a sighting. It went on for days. You had materials recovered. Again, the United States Air Force, the Coast Guard of both Canada and the United States involved with this. You had deep-sea divers involved. You had frogmen. (40:09) Everything in this case. It should be out there, like I had mentioned at the beginning of the show, watching a documentary. The first thing you see is Roswell. You know what? It should be Shag Harbor. It should be. Shag Harbor, Rendlesham. These are big, big. Tehran, 1976. These are big, big cases with piles of documentation backing it up. (40:36) And Shag Harbor is one of them. Canada has this gift. It is a huge, huge case, Christina. It is, and it did grab a lot of people's attention in terms of the Canadian government and military. And same with the United States, like you had said. What's interesting about this is that there were about 30 witnesses that described the object as dome-shaped, roughly 60 feet long and 10 feet high. (41:06) And after about five minutes, the object submerged with a whooshing sound. Whoosh! prompting a search operation involving the RCMP, local fishermen, and even the Canadian Coast Guard, as you had mentioned, Jimmy. But despite navigating through this unusual yellow foam, no evidence of the object or survivors were ever found, and the search was called off at around 3 a.m. (41:35) that night. with no missing aircraft reported by NORAD or the Rescue Cooperation Center, and the incident was officially classified as a UFO sighting. When it comes to Canada, you're right, there are some very strange things that have taken place there, and now with the Sky Canada Project, which is... Very much like the Aero Office, the UAPTF, the AOI-MSG. (42:02) They're going to be releasing their UFO report by the end of summer or in the fall. And I'm interested to see what they're going to write in there, especially when you have cases such as Shag Harbor and such as Falcon Lake back in 1967. Yeah, yeah. Now, with Shag Harbor... Okay, so here, let's break this down. (42:26) How much time do I have? One minute and eight seconds. One minute and eight seconds. Okay, I'll be a sports reporter here. This is what we've got. You've got civilian aircraft. You've got pilots. You've got radar. And they are seeing this gold ball. They are tracking it. It goes down south into the southern point of Nova Scotia where Shag Harbor is. (42:51) Makes a turn. Comes down. Now, witnesses from the shore. are seeing this craft and it's coming down and they're like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Oh, it crashed. They go down to the harbor. They've got fishing boats there. This thing is sitting out there and then goes below the water. They think it's a plane crash. (43:11) They send out the boats