UFO Sightings of the Rich and Famous

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We talk about UFOs amongst ourselves, but what about the more influential, the singers, the actors, the politicians, the athletes? Have any of them ever spoken out publicly about seeing a UFO? Or at the very least, do they at all care about the UFO phenomenon? We will be looking at when the rich and famous have spoken out about their UFO sightings, either in writing or in a video format interview. (00:50) I'm on a journey of discovery. I am seeking answers to some of the most challenging questions that face mankind. and many nuggets of knowledge that could bring those answers or unsolved cases and tales of the strange and unexplained. This show focuses on recounting cases and stories of unknown phenomena, mysterious events, weird places, and the unexpected. (01:10) So please make sure to like, subscribe, and comment your thoughts on the people we are going to cover today. This show is going to be a different format, as we are going to go through several categories. And the first category we're going to get into are the athletes. Take a guess on the first person that we're going to mention today. (01:30) I'll give you a second. You thought of it? Okay. First person is Muhammad Ali. And what's really interesting about him, and I have a video that I'm going to be showing to you, but before we get there, He's mentioned before that he's had easily 16 UFO sightings in his lifetime. And he does an interview back in 1973 for the Budget Time Travel. (01:58) And I really want you to listen to what he has to say. the person that's sitting next to him, his facial expressions, the host, and the audience. All of those factors are going to be very important for this clip I'm going to show you. And of course, it's always much better to hear the story from the person themselves versus me just reading to you what they said once. (02:20) So let's go ahead and play that. Before the next day, right? You seem quite reserved tonight. I've been studying UFOs. Did you know there are UFOs out here flying around unidentified? This would be the place for them, Southern California. I'm serious. They sighted a bunch of them in Georgia. I've seen them at night. (02:43) They have real photos of them in the government. The people just completely seem like don't talk about it. But Mr. Harold Salkin of Washington, D.C., he's the head of the National UFO Bureau. You've got me moving films. I actually have moving pictures of little saucers and great steel objects coming into pictures that people took. (03:02) And I'm just surprised that they don't have to talk more about it. Another great insight into the fight game. No, I'm just kidding. No, I read that. But did you read the thing last night on the news? No. That some physicists said that what the people of Georgia might have seen were that there are probably several thousand satellite objects going around the United States, around the Earth, and sometimes they disintegrate and they come back into space. (03:25) Not 50 feet over the highway. But it could. It's got to land somewhere. No. They call it swamp gas and something. I don't know what it is, but... I think I do, but there are actual saucers and objects coming within our atmosphere and flying around, and people got pictures. Everybody sight the same thing in every city, the red and blue and green lights. (03:45) But the people, the authorities completely brush it off as if to say we are mentally off. But I know it's right, because I've been seeing them. Well, why don't they land then, Muhammad? Now, if they're intelligent people, why wouldn't they land and step out and say, hi there? Or ga-ling-ding, whatever they say. (04:01) Why wouldn't they make contact? They probably figure they can't get no sense out of the people here. I'm serious. I'm not. Well, I know you're serious in your belief. I don't believe in it myself. This is anybody who's got eyes. Well, you can see a lot of things, but that doesn't always make them objects from other planets. (04:19) What about the fight? Okay, there's a lot to dissect from that one. But one of the main things is the person sitting next to him was like, no, Muhammad, please, please don't. But Muhammad is going for it. He's like, look, I've been researching UFOs. I've been looking into it. I know someone on the inside that's provided me photos and videos. (04:41) And it's something that's so interesting to me. But you know what they're going to say? They're going to say it's swamp gas. Then you have the host for budget time travel who was like, well, Southern California is the place to go see a UFO. And to be fair, he wasn't wrong. OK, let's let's be honest. (04:56) California is a bizarre hotspot when it comes to UFOs. But this took place in 1973. A lot of UFO sightings, a lot of alleged alien abductions were happening during that time frame between the 60s, 70s into the early 80s. It was just a hot, time period. And for Muhammad Ali, one of the most, the most influential athletes of all time to talk about it. (05:24) It's shocking. It's shocking. But what's more shocking is the how the audience and how the host reacted to it. And you could hear it. And for me, I cannot stand where you're like signed to laugh, you know, like, okay, now laugh now, like for sitcoms and for these kinds of shows, it bothers me. Father Ted's an exception, but everywhere else, I'm just like, let them laugh naturally if it's actually funny okay but that's just a little a side note but looking at this as soon as he mentioned as soon as the (05:54) word ufo left his lips the audience is cackling they're like oh my god this is so funny and then you have the host trying to still be somewhat respectful to muhammad but it's like thinking to himself This guy's out of his mind. And I believe your beliefs or you can believe your beliefs. And he's like, and he ends it so beautifully. (06:16) He says, it's not a belief. It's for anyone that has eyes. And I was thinking that was so brilliantly said, especially for 1973. But there's more when it comes to Muhammad, because as I had mentioned right before showing that clip, He stated before that he's easily had about 16 sightings, mostly while training in the early morning in Kentucky. (06:43) And I want to put this image back up. And so he also claimed that he saw a mothership as well. And he said, quote, If you look up in the sky in the early morning, you see them playing tag between the stars. Can we just just take a second to think about that? Obviously, obviously, it cannot be Venus. It cannot be Jupiter. (07:04) It shouldn't be swamp gas, especially in Kentucky. But I could be wrong there. Weather balloons, it's a bit difficult. Why? Because, number one, he's saying that this has happened on many mornings in Kentucky. Right, right when the sun's coming up, but you're still able to see the stars, but they're moving sporadically. (07:24) It's difficult to explain it away so simply. But here's another one. He says, quote, the closest one happened when a cigar shaped ship hovered briefly over a car. I was a passenger in one night driving north on the ship. New Jersey Turnpike, and what a sight it was. We could see the shadow made by the UFO as it passed over the pavement of the road in the light of the full moon. (07:54) Before I could blink my eyes, the light had come down towards the mountains until it hovered right above the valley here. I knew I couldn't be dreaming. Sure enough, it was still there. This had to be one of those big ships they talk about. The UFO was steamlined and shaped sort of like a cigar, but blunt on both ends. (08:15) I couldn't see any windows or anything, but I'm certain there must have been people on board. Now, when he is saying people, we can assume here it's extraterrestrial or non-human. Because during that interview for the Budget Time Travel in 1973, the host also said people when he was referring to aliens. (08:37) And now aliens has become a more broader term over the last, I'm going to say, the last like two years. And I was talking to this with someone, I think it was like I got a DM saying, not all aliens are extraterrestrial. And I'm like, no, you're absolutely right. Jacques Vallée was one of the first people to mention aliens could be interdimensional. (08:59) And then in the last few years, we have Lou Elizondo, David Grush, and a few others that are saying, no. We're not necessarily dealing with extraterrestrial, but more of an interdimensional aspect. And this is really interesting because it's broadening our understanding of what alien means, what people are having interactions with, who are they. (09:22) And we just can't place all of our eggs in one basket. So I just wanted to highlight on that. I think it's important. But for me, looking into this, I had no idea Muhammad Ali had UFO sightings. But not only that, he was very proud to talk about them. There are a few others that actually we're going to be covering today that sat on their sightings for years, if not decades, before coming out and sharing their experience with the world. (09:49) But then you have Muhammad, one of the most influential athletes of all time, Just just laying it out how it is and truly bizarre. And I'm going to be asking a question. I might ask it a few times. I'm going to start it off today with our first one. And that is we're going to be covering at least at least 10 to 15 topics. (10:11) rich and famous celebrities? Here's my question for you. Maybe you can answer it now. Maybe you got to sit on it until the end of the show or maybe until next week. Why are they getting so much visitation? Why are so many celebrities being visited or are having UFO encounters? And a lot of them speak out about it. (10:32) Not all of them, There's probably many that are still hiding in the closet when it comes to their UFO sighting. But a good chunk of people have come out at some point in the last few years since 2017 onward to be more exact minus Muhammad Ali. But until 2017 onward, more celebrities are like, yeah, I had something happen to me. (10:51) Yeah, I saw something really weird in the sky. And a pattern you're going to see is a lot of these celebrities saw strange things in deserts. OK, just remember that. OK, and every time you catch it, write it in the live chat, write it in the comments of, hey, I heard it. The celebrity saw it in the desert. I do want to see that one. (11:13) Before we do that, I want to say hello to everyone catching this live. Hello, Raphael. No filter. Paul, Jerry, Darkstar, All Work, Lope, Bob, Tyler, Anthony. Buenos dias, as Anthony says. Buenos dias. Getting into our next one here. And this is for all of my NFL fans out there. The next we'll be talking about is Aaron Rodgers. (11:37) And he was an NFL quarterback. And he had a sighting back in 2005, but didn't publicly speak about it until 2023. And this is according to the ESPN. Because in the final season of Hard Knocks on HBO, Steve Levy was talking to Rogers and he said, hey, Rogers, tell the UFO sighting that we had back in 2005. Roger is getting kind of sweaty hands. (12:09) He's moving them together and he's like, we really want to do this. And Levy's like, come on, come on. Everyone wants to hear this UFO sighting. Plus, UFOs are trending right now. It'll really do good stats for this episode of Hard Knocks. Go ahead and tell the story. So Roger sits back in his chair and he takes a really big, deep breath and he says, All right, I'm going to tell the story. (12:31) And here's what happened. Because during that captivating interview with his former college teammate, Steve Levy, Rogers recounted a remarkable UFO sighting they experienced together in 2005. So while staying at Levy's New Jersey home for the NFL draft, Rogers, Levy, and Levy's brother were drawn outside by some kind of distant alarm or only to witness a massive object traversing the sky reminiscent of the scene from Independence Day. (13:05) That was the first thing that went through Roger's mind when he was seeing this in the sky. He's like, let's go to my television knowledge. Oh, my gosh. Here's a comparison. Independence Day. So the group, they were stunned so much so they didn't speak a word when they were observing this object. (13:25) And then shortly before fighter jets appeared, seemingly in pursuit, they're seeing this object first. And then they're seeing military jets. Interesting. We've heard this a thousand times. We've seen it with the Phoenix Lights in 1997. This case is no exception. So Rogers, and this is really interesting about Aaron Rogers because he knows a little bit about UFOs. (13:50) He understands in some ways the UFO phenomenon because the next comment he makes are only those that know anything about this topic because he mentioned and he thought to himself, you know what? We're kind of close to a nuclear plant and there is a connection between UFOs and nukes. He said that in the episode of Hard Knocks. (14:12) This blew my mind and it demonstrates it doesn't matter. Your profession doesn't matter. Your credentials matter. The UFO phenomenon is a sick topic to cover. It's awesome. It's fun. It's exciting. And it piques many people's curiosity. And even an NFL quarterback is doing the research behind the scenes to say, even though I saw something very weird in 2005 and didn't talk about it for decades, he still looked into it and he thought to himself, you know what? We're kind of close to a nuke plan. (14:45) Maybe there's a connection there. What's also interesting with his sighting is that there were military jets that scrambled right behind this UFO, this object. So there could be a lot of things going through people's minds. Could it have been a black project? It's a possibility. Could it have been some kind of test flight? It's a possibility. (15:07) Could there be a... connection or some kind of cooperation between aliens and our government. Many people would say so. And I'm not going to tell you if that's true or not. That's up for you to decide. But with a lot of people that have encountered, have seen UFO sightings, Military jets quickly scramble afterward, and the possibilities are endless on to why that is. (15:34) So let me ask you, why do you think that's the case? Do you think it's just a casual coincidence? Is there some kind of cooperation? Are they just black projects? Let me know. I do truly want to understand where you're coming from. Now we are getting into our next one. And this one, this one's funny. (15:56) Okay. Because talking about Shaquille O'Neal, he did an interview with Jimmy Kimmel back in 2021. So incredibly recently of a sighting that he had back in 1997. Does that year ring a bell? Does that year sound interesting? If you are following this episode, like a hawk, I just mentioned it when we're looking at the Phoenix lights and I'm not saying Shaquille O'Neal saw the Phoenix lights, but it was the same year. (16:24) Let's go ahead and play that interview. Relations. I do want to ask you about the UFOs 60 minutes. Did you watch last night? Do you know what's going on? 1997. Me and one of my good friends, Chris Flores. We were on a double date. The girl he married, her name's Melissa, her friend named Melissa. We were on a double date. (16:45) We were coming from Hollywood Video in Madera, California. And right when we passed the fairground, by this big open lot, I could have swear I saw a flying saucer coming out with all the lights and it was spinning and it just and took off and everything happened in less than five seconds. And we all looked at each other and was like, And I know that it was a UFO. (17:10) I don't care what anybody says. You never told anybody about that? No, you're the first person I told because I don't want people to think I'm crazy. Right, right, right. Yeah, but since I know you're crazy and you believe in UFOs, I don't know that Shaq believes in UFOs. That's insane. (17:30) That's insane in so many ways. Hold on, let me just put that back. Okay, so he gave his testimony in 2021 on the Jimmy Kimmel episode where he says, look, you believe in UFOs, so it's okay for me to talk about it. If he was on someone else's show, maybe he wouldn't have mentioned it, but... And I kind of cut it out just a little bit because it's a bit longer of an intro. (17:52) But Jimmy Kimmel, as soon as Shaq gets on the show, he cuts the chase and he says, OK, it's 2021. Weird stuff is happening. We are seeing the AOI MSG report. It's really hitting the news hard. What do you think about UFOs? He didn't mention the AOY MSG. I'm just kind of filling it in. That's what was happening in 2021. (18:12) And then like the UAPTF and stuff. And Shaq is like, okay, now it's time for me to tell my story. I made this particular interview into a shorter format. video across social media platforms. And the comments were funny because people were saying the sound effects made the whole story legit. It's like, okay, if Shaq made those sound effects, you know it's a true story. (18:40) And it's funny. And he is another person that is incredibly influential. Not only was he one of the I would say one of the more famous basketball players of his time, but he's also an entrepreneur, a philanthropist. When you walk into Staples, you see ginormous cutouts of him. I mean, when you see his face, you know exactly who he is, even if you're living under a rock. (19:05) You know what's up. For him just to recently tell the story, I think it's interesting. And when we're looking at celebrities, the rich and the famous, they have some of the biggest platforms. They are bigger than any influencer that we could ever imagine. So when they talk out about a UFO encounter, about being interested in UFOs, it puts other people, it makes them jump into a rabbit hole, or it makes them feel comfortable to go ahead and say, maybe it's okay for me to talk about my UFO sighting. (19:40) Maybe it's okay to think to myself maybe I did see something weird that I simply couldn't explain at the very least you don't have to talk about talk out about your sightings but if you do I do have a discord server where it's a safe and friendly place for people to share their insights their experiences and more that link is below I know one of my amazing mods will share that link in the live chat But you don't have to share your experiences. (20:04) At the very least, when you just feel comfortable with the sighting that you had, it makes a big difference for the rest of your life. And a lot of these celebrities are insanely, insanely famous, more so than any YouTuber or TikToker or who knows what. These people have huge audiences. Next, we're moving over to our politicians. (20:26) But you know what? More specifically, our presidents. Jimmy and I did a whole show on UFOs and presidents. It's a fantastic show. I highly recommend it because it's really interesting to see that from Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, Richard Nixon, Obama, Clinton, Trump, even Biden. All of these presidents have been pushing to know about UFOs. (20:53) A lot of them have a UFO interest. And then when they walk into the Pentagon, they're like, all right, give me the goods. publicly the president say and they gave me nothing I wasn't allowed to enter area 51 they didn't tell me anything about roswell but consistently for a good chunk of the united states presidents they have walked in and they said I want to know about ufos there have been some campaigns over the last decades a good example of this is bernie sanders who said if I become president I will disclose (21:26) UFOs and the government research on UFOs. Trump has talked about that. Hillary Clinton has done that. There's a few other candidates in the past that I've kind of touched on that before. So there is this fascination, even when it comes to politicians and presidents in this case that show this interest. (21:45) So we're going to start off with Jimmy Carter, as we're seeing on screen right here. Because in 1969, he believed that he witnessed a UFO and his official report on the sighting was not filled until 1973. So we're looking at a four year gap, which isn't ideal. Hopefully he had written down his encounter right after it happened because kind of going from memory four years later, it's a bit of a toughie. (22:13) But it was prompted by a request from the International UFO Bureau, which sent him a report form, which I think is really interesting. And the document completed in Carter's handwriting while he was Georgia's governor is preserved at the Jimmy Carter Presidential Library and Museum. And then there was also a similar document which responds like response typed, which exists within the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena, also known as NICAP, which bears the same date of September 18th, 1973, (22:53) the year that he wrote it down. But let's get into that sighting. What did he see in 1969? Are you excited? I'm excited for this one because here's what happened. because he reported observing a ufo in leary a small town in south georgia located about 90 minutes south of columbia and he noticed that his sighting was shared with 10 10 other individuals from the Georgia Lions Club and the signing, which occurred just right after dusk. (23:23) So at around seven fifteen p.m., they noticed this as they awaited the start of a meeting scheduled for seven thirty p.m. when this brightly illuminated object captured their attentions before cell phones. So no one's looking down the way that they do today. Now, in his reports, Carter remained uncertain about the nature of what he saw. (23:46) He remained very skeptical, and he described witnessing a strange light that altered in size, brightness, and color over a span of 10 to 12 minutes. Wow. When you have if you've ever had a UFO encounter, you're lucky to see it for a few seconds. In this case for Carter to see it for 10, 12 minutes and to be able to almost measure the brightness, the span of colors and even the size is truly remarkable. (24:23) And what's important about his particular sighting that took place in, what did I say, 1969, is that this craft that him and 10 other people saw made no sound. made no sound. How many times, someone tell me, how many times have we heard that before? Too many times to count. And Carter is no exception to this. (24:48) So the object, according to Carter, was situated about 30 degrees above the horizon, comparable in size to the moon, but varying in appearance. What does that mean? Is he mentioning that it's some kind of shape-shifting craft? Or is it because the light was too bright and when it moves around, it looks like it's shape-shifting? It doesn't really go into details on that. (25:13) And at times, it seemed closer, possibly within 300 yards. And at other times, it appeared as far as 1,000 yards away. So 300 yards, a football field is 100 yards. So just three football fields because we're in the States and we measure everything in football fields and in Walmarts. So hopefully that gives you a little bit of understanding of how far this was. (25:38) This object was from Carter, which in reality, 300 yards, it's pretty far. We're looking at a little under a mile. Because four laps, right, 400 yards is about a mile when you're running. OK, sorry, that's such boring information. But some people, my athletes will understand what I'm talking about. (25:56) So this UFO exhibited self illumination, displaying an initial bluish hue, then shifting to reddish and appeared luminous, yet not solid. This is a sick detail. And then Carter recounted how the object approached and then retreated, but then finally vanished after about 15 minutes. That's a good chunk of time to be able to gauge anything. (26:26) Have it be you're watching animals in the forest play. Have it be you're watching some kind of weird object in the sky. 15 minutes is a good amount of time, don't you think? For those that have had a UFO sighting, how long was yours? Was it a few seconds? Was it a few minutes? Was it even a few hours? Let me know down below. (26:48) I would like to know about your sighting. Tyler says, like pure light or organic looking? This is a really awesome question because Carter mentions that it appeared luminous but not solid. The interpretations are endless with this, but we don't hear that too often with UFO sightings, especially when it's coming from credible people such as Carter right here. (27:16) And so could it have been organic, kind of like the Carlos Diaz lights? Possibly. Possibly. I think it's interesting. Scientist says, I believe it. I don't see why not. I mean, all you can do is take this at face value with a grain of salt. But I cannot emphasize this enough that these people are influencing others to feel more comfortable with this topic because for the decades that it's been in people's eyes and minds has just been riddled with stigma. (27:50) too much. Now it's become easier. And being able to mention, hey, a lot of celebrities have spoken out about it. This will make people feel more comfortable. Next one. is Mr. Ronald Reagan. And for those that don't know, for those outside of the United States, before Ronald Reagan was a president, the 40th president, he used to be a Hollywood actor and a California governor. (28:20) Now, he had a sighting back in 1974. And what's interesting about his case is that there were several other witnesses with him. So there were four people aboard a plane with with Ronald Reagan in it. One of them was pilot Bill Painter, two security guards and Ronald Reagan. And as the airplane approached Bakersfield, California, the passengers called Painter's attention to a strange object to their rear. (28:56) And it says, quote, it appeared to be several hundred yards away, according to Painter. And it continues. It was a fairly steady light until it began to accelerate. Then it appeared to elongate. Then the light just took off. It went up at a 45 degree angle at a high rate of speed and everyone on the plane was surprised. (29:22) The UFO went from a normal cruise speed to a fantastic speed instantly. And if you give any airplane power, it will accelerate, but not like a hot rod. And that's exactly what that UFO was like. Then a week later, Reagan recounted the sighting to Norman C. Miller with the Washington Bureau chief for The Wall Street Journal. (29:49) And Reagan told Miller, quote, We followed it for several minutes. It was a bright white light. We followed it to Bakersfield. And then all of a sudden, to our utter amazement, it went straight up into the heavens. When Miller expressed some doubt, the journalist said, a look of horror came over Reagan because it suddenly dawned to him or dawned on him that he was talking to a reporter. (30:17) So that sighting that he had, he could have told anyone. But he's like, you know what? Let me tell this to a reporter. And of course, it was very quickly published in newspapers across the country of, oh, my gosh, listen to this. Ronald Reagan had a UFO sighting. Should we vote for him for president? That's not the actual headline, but that's probably what was going through Reagan's mind. (30:39) Now, this took place when he was still a governor, but probably at that time he was considering running for president. So after that, once he realized who he was speaking to, Reagan very quickly clammed up and he stopped talking when Miller was attempting to get more information out of him. attempting to get more details of the sighting that he had back in 1974. (31:05) But Reagan stopped right there. He's like, I had some loose lips and loose lips sink ships. And he just stopped talking. He's like, I can't, I can't do this anymore. Now, out of those two presidents, Let me ask you this. This is going to be an interesting question. Let's say these two presidents and maybe a bunch of other people were running for presidency, okay? But you knew that maybe one, two, or three of them had a UFO sighting. (31:33) Do you think that would increase their chances of winning presidency? I know it's a superficial question. It shouldn't be about your experiences. It should be about how you can help a country. But sometimes... Most of the time, people can be very superficial. So if you knew someone that you wanted, people that were running for presidency, and you knew one of them had a UFO sighting, do you think in your mind that you would vote for them because of that? And then maybe their political views might be a second reason why. (32:08) It's a weird question, but it's a serious one. Please answer that. Raphael says, currently, yes, and past, no. Pete says, nope, it wouldn't increase their chances of winning the election. You're right. It didn't work with Bernie Sanders, who was really pushing for it and saying, if I become president, I will release UFO information. (32:35) It didn't work for him. So I think he's a good example. Jam says, nope. Keith says, yes. Tony says, 10 years ago, no, but now, yes. Heck says, no, it wouldn't increase chances. I think everyone's, some are saying yes and some are saying no. Rome says, I do. Hyde says, what would we do with an honest, transparent president? Serious question. (33:09) When it comes to politicians, are they really ever that transparent? Hmm. OK, now we're getting into our actors here. And for this next one, I do have a video for you. And we're talking about Kurt Russell and the year once again is popping up and it's 1997. But this one is very specifically referring to the Phoenix Lights. (33:35) He gave his testimony on the BBC back in April of 2017. Let's go ahead and play that. Oliver and I were flying in. I was flying him to go see his girlfriend. And we were on approach. And I saw six lights over the airport in absolute uniform in a V shape. And Oliver said to me, I was just looking at him. I was coming in. (34:02) We're maybe a half a mile out. And Oliver said, Pa, what are those lights? And then it kind of like came out of my reverie. And I said, I don't know what they are. He said, are we okay here? And I said, yeah, I'm going to call him. And I reported it. And they said, we're not painting anything. We don't show anything. (34:18) I said, well, okay, I'm going to declare it's unidentified. It's flying and it's six objects. We landed. I taxied, dropped him off, took off, went back to LA. Never said a word. He never said a word. I never thought of it. Two years later, Goldie is watching a television show when I came home. And the show is on UFOs. (34:44) But as I came home, hey, honey, how's it going? And I'm kind of hearing the TV going, and I stopped, and I started watching, and it was on that event. Now, that was the most viewed UFO event. Over 20,000 people saw that. And I'm watching this, and I'm feeling like Richard Dreyfuss in Close Encounters of the Third Count. (35:06) It's like, why do I know this? And it's not clear to me. Finally, I said, then they said the pilot reported it, a general aviation pilot reported it on landing. I had never thought of it since then. And I said, that was me. That was me. And I said, wait a minute. I'll go to my log books. So I went to my logbooks, and there was the flight at that time, and I didn't mention anything about the UFO. (35:35) The fascinating part of that to me is that it just went literally out of my head. And Oliver never mentioned it. And had I not seen that show, I'd have never thought of it again. That's insane. That is seriously insane in so many ways. So number one, I love the fact that once again, we are seeing a pop culture reference. (36:00) And he mentions the movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind. It's a classic. Everyone loves. in our world knows about it. And even the person sitting next to Kurt Russell, the guy from guards of the galaxy and his name escapes me. He was like, yeah, yeah. Close encounters. Like I know that movie. Duh. And so this is, this demonstrates to the world how important pop culture is because we're able to pull examples from that in order to convey what we encountered, our experiences and our experiences. (36:35) encounters better than maybe using language that people wouldn't fully understand. So our current understanding, our current environment and our current knowledge really does affect how we convey that to people in general. And we've spoken about this in the UFO cases predating 1903, which is really important on how people in the past attempted to tell their UFO sightings to people with the language and the vocabulary and the inventions they used to have during that timeframe. (37:04) We're seeing it here today. Kurt Russell is an example of that. And I think it's fantastic. So that's one