There has been so much speculation about the videos and images of instances where a Jellyfish UFO / UAP has been caught on camera. From secret military drone tech, to extraterrestrial craft, to an alien organic lifeform, to interdimensional entities, and even Djinn demons. In this episode of Shifting the Paradigm, MUFON Director of International Investigations, Bob Spearing delivers a shocking and insightful presentation regarding this unusual phenomenon.

Bob Spearing graduated from Fordham University in 1981 with a B.A. in Communications with Journalism, Advertising, Public Opinion, Propaganda, and Film Production as major concentrations. Bob retired from the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey in 2019 after 34 years of service. His many duties included being an FRA licensed Rail Traffic Controller and Locomotive Engineer. While in management, he was a Safety Investigator, Contract Administrator, prepared multi-million-dollar budgets, wrote contracts, produced training videos, managed public relations, logistics for concerts and cultural festivals, and curated historical railroad exhibitions at a major regional transportation hub. He had 3 UFO sightings himself and it was enough to capture his interest and research the phenomenon.

Bob joined The Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) in 2014 as a Field Investigator and is currently Director of International Investigations. Bob has appeared in several episodes of the 2019 Travel Channel television series “UFOs: The Lost Evidence” as a photo analyst. In a February 2023 Ancient Aliens episode on the History Channel in February he appeared as a MUFON field investigator.

He will be in a 2024 Netflix Documentary called The UFO Game and is filming a segment for Ron James’ movie sequel An Accidental Truth NEXT. Bob was MUFON’s Field Investigator of the Year in 2018 and Volunteer of The Year in 2023. Bob has long been involved with MUFON’s various special projects including the Project Aquarius Digital Library historical reports archiving project, the Pine Bush, N.Y. UFO Museum, and the MUFON Members Social Network. He has had numerous articles published in various UFO related magazines around the world like Outer Limits Magazine, Shadows of Your Mind Magazine, UFOTruth Magazine and the MUFON Journal. He also writes articles for the MUFON Newsletter and their website MUFON.COM and speaks at various UFO conventions around North America specifically on Patterns in UFO Reports. 

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Hello and welcome to this episode of Shifting the Paradigm with me today is muon director of international investigations Bob spearing I'm very excited to have him on because he's done significant investigations on the jellyfish UFO phenomenon and this has really gained Traction in the public eye when Jeremy Corbell released his jellyfish video in January of 2024 and ever since then there's been a all this habub on the topic so I'm looking forward to speaking with a jellyfish UFO expert Bob thank you so much for being (00:50) here before we get into your analysis on these UFO jellyfish I'd first like to get a little bit of a background of Who You Are and your UFO research as well it began a long time ago uh back in November of 1965 we had the great North Eastern blackout I was a little kid uh everything from Quebec down to Virginia went dark and the next day there were all these reports that UFOs over the clay power station at Niagara Falls took out all of the power on the East Coast I was hooked my uncle at the time used to (01:25) bring me gold key UFO comic books in the 70s I used to get the SAG magazines Saga UFO magazines in 85 I had a a sighting of an orb over a lake doing bizarre Maneuvers uh I also saw a silver sphere once while I was on a train uh pacing the train at about 1,000 feet out the strangest thing that ever happened to me was up in uh coming back from Quebec near Lake Placid about 2010 I came to this clearing on this empty Highway in the middle of nowhere and I saw this massive object with triangular Wheels climbing up a cliff (02:02) and I did a u-turn to go back to see what it was and it was gone by the time I get back so technically it wasn't uh unidentified flying object but it was certainly uh some sort of technological object in the middle of nowhere that shouldn't have been there so I joined muon uh I was a field investigator for several years and worked my way up to director of international investigations I have a forensic background a journalistic background uh film ction background so I had a lot of the attributes that were (02:33) required to be a field investigator and I also had a lot of managerial experience so that's how I got where I am that's pretty remarkable and just the amount of strange encounters that you've had it leads me to the question do you think that you were at the right place at the right time or maybe did you feel pre-selected to have these kinds of sightings and encounters when I was a kid I had some very odd dreams that I thought I may have been pre-selected uh that would have barded on abduction I don't believe (03:03) though that I was ever abducted if anything I believe I was rejected as a child for abduction later on in life I just think I just happened to be at the right place at the right time when I saw these I I I considered the the last one odd the other two were pretty mundane so when I was a child maybe as an adult now what led you to the conclusion that you believe that you might have been rejected I was invited by what I think were three little Grays but they looked like uh Peter lorri the old 1930s actor to me they had sort of scrunchy faces (03:37) and they were outside my window and they were calling me to come with them and I could see the stars and Jupiter and Saturn behind them and I was afraid I would never see my parents again so I told them no and that pretty much ended my odd dreamlike experiences how old were you 7 six s so I I mean and if you saw the if you saw the muan database uh like I do there's 140,000 cases and you you read the narratives you'd be amazed at how many narratives start off with I was about seven or eight years old at the (04:13) time it's they UFOs and children are definitely a pattern it's scary it is and there's a lot of ideas on why that might be but for someone such as yourself that's kind of experienced that that has researched that what do you what's your answer on why you think children and these extraterrestrials have this connection I I think that there could be several possibilities um on the Demonic side I I think uh there may be something to do with some soul stealing on the alien side there may be something to do (04:46) with that hybrid program uh I was just looking at a case last night where a woman had a bedroom encounter where Gray's actually stole the baby out of her out of her body while she was screaming and she suffered from postpartum depression whatever it is I I do believe it's Sinister I'm not one of those people who think that you know the aliens are good guys I'm uh I'm a little surprised to hear the um the the Demonic explanation to come out first from a muon investigator through your years of (05:18) research do you feel like there are these two different camps between ET and demons or something else I I I think that the UFO phenomenon is an umbrella term for many phenomena I definitely think there's a demonic side muon would not agree with me that's just my personal opinion uh there's also the nuts and bolts alien craft theory that they're coming from somewhere else I am particularly fond of the time traveler Theory over the years a lot of my research has shown me that uh our timeline I I truly believe is being (05:54) manipulated and if you go throughout history there were interference in battles uh with Rome and with the ponthan Empire uh and and other cultures uh and I do think that religion plays apartment too that there may be a a religious component to whatever the time manipulators are trying to do prevent something from happening in the future or trying to cause something to happen in the future and then there's also you know the the more mundane aspects of of ethology that there may be you know secret aircraft of the United States or (06:28) China or Russia that people mistake for UFOs there the soran theory that there may be an ancient civilization at the bottom of the oceans uh I don't discount any of it the the time traveler Theory I think has become more mundane over the last few years before people were like you're out of your mind to have that as a conclusion but now we're hearing more and more people think about that as a possibility and just just musing about it it is pretty fascinating just to think why like why are they doing that (06:58) if true right but you've also investigated and looked at and researched thousands of cases can you tell us a little bit about your role as the director of international investigations well what what I do specifically is I handle all of the field investigators and all of the investigations outside the United States of America the United States of America clearly has the most cases uh that would be followed second by Canada uh uh France the United Kingdom and then Australia are probably the five biggest countries we get cases from other parts (07:38) of the world too like Singapore or Morocco and we really don't have people in those countries because it's rare that you get a lot of reports from there unless it's like a flap of some sort so we have a special team that reaches out to people in remote parts of the world to try to get their story but for the most part the major European and North American countries and I Brazil to that are where we get the majority of our reports from so I oversee about a 100 field investigators and probably about (08:10) two to 300 cases a year outside the United States that's pretty impressive actually I I think uh mufon's doing a really fantastic job on that just being an amazing database to allow people to understand what is going on around the world and then what's amazing is that you're able to read other people's accounts and you say oh my gosh that sounds like mine and so I think it gives people a level of confidence to share their stories or to even reassure them that what happened to them really did (08:37) happen and it wasn't just some hallucination or just some crazy dream well I'm a patterns guy all right and when you see the same craft over and over again when you hear people telling the same story over and over again when the abduction scenario was the same over and over again you have to say that these people aren't hallucinating they're actually experiencing something real and it's been going on for a very very very long time and you've also done some serious digging when it comes to (09:07) seeing these jellyfish UFOs around the world and what I love about today and having you as a guest is that you actually came prepared with the presentation on the topic so I'm actually going to hand this off to you asking you a few questions here and there but please take Take the Lead um if you could put up slide one I want to show people what a jellyfish is not okay so we got this great video a couple of years ago of this red object with streamers uh flying like east to west and we really weren't sure what it was and we presented it as (09:43) a case of interest at our Symposium and we asked uh the audience to determine what it might be and someone showed us a picture of exactly what it was and it was a kite it was a squid shaped kite so this wasn't a UFO at all but to the untrained eye it looked like a giant squid this guy so I I present this one to show you that that a jellyfish might not be a UFO at all it might be a kite the next one I'm going to show you number two is the same thing These Are squid balloons okay you fill them up with helium and when people see these from (10:23) far away they may think that this is an extraterrestrial object when in reality it's it's it's just a a myar balloon shaped like a a squid so what muon tries to do is determine what is mundane and what is anomalous and in probably 90% of all of the cases that we get not only with jellyfish or squid shaped objects we can solve most most of of what we get uh let's go to number three it's just another octopus shaped balloon I just want to show again what jellyfish UFOs are not and now I'd (11:04) like to get into the corbel video all right so Jeremy Corbell the filmmaker uh presented to the world uh about two years ago this short video of uh what looks like a octopus shaped object flying over a military base in Iraq approximately 2018 or 2019 19 they're not sure of the date and it caught the World by storm and eventually corel's going to come out with the entire video but he just gave Snippets of it and he claimed that this was RW footage smuggled out of the military base the first thing that that you have (11:47) to know is that that's not true okay the video that he presented to the world is not Ru images it was screenshots from another television screen so if you call something raw data that means that the digital signature behind what you're looking at would be there giving you the date the time the uh longitude and latitude especially with an iPhone or with a a complex military camera and this does not so he's mistaken when he says this is R raw material uh the second thing is he said it was top secret well the (12:29) department of Defense came back and said we don't tell anybody what's top secret or not so he's inaccurate about of it being top secret okay so they pretty much debunked his claim that it was top secret we debunked his claim that it was raw footage all right uh it it gets worse because he claimed that it went for 17 minutes and then down into the water in Persian Gulf there was a intelligence Sergeant who saw this video at the base where this apparently took place and he said that it was at a location called Lake hawaa there is no (13:12) Lake hawaa in Iraq but there is a lake habaka which I believe is where a uh U an English military Bas is Airfield and that is 500 mil away from the Persian Gulf so pretty much Jeremy corbel strikes out three times on location uh that it was top secret and that it was rooad beta so that begs the question what is it it looks like it's got two legs at the bottom it looks like it's got horns we thought that initially it might be some sort of conglomeration of uh Festival balloons but there were no muslim festivals going on at that (13:56) time of the year I believe it was October so it could have been a clump of balloons but that the interesting thing is how is it being filmed it was allegedly being filmed from a security camera on an aerostat a blimp doing surveillance at the military base and it followed this object for 17 minutes the problem is if it was a tethered balloon if it was a tethered aerosat with a camera it wouldn't have been ahead of this object for so long would have actually been panning following it okay so we not sure if it (14:35) was really a camera on an aerostat or not or if maybe there was a drone following it filming it as it went along the ultimate question though is what is it that was over at the base and one conclusion is that it was balloons a second conclusion is that it was uh the residue of bugs on the screen and that it was not an actual object but it was something smeared on the camera lens the third possibility is that it was a human shaped drone and if we could go to the next picture this is a what a soldier looks like if he's wearing what's called a (15:19) ghilly suit a ghilly suit is a type of camouflage that could explain the spaghetti type outline of the object in the Corbell video and if you go to the next video forward you'll see that there are actual production models of human shaped drones so the closest thing that we could come to uh a conclusion about was that it was possibly a surveillance drone human shaped covered in camouflage like a ghillie suit so mufon's feeling about the corbel video is that it's not something uh anomalous that it's (16:00) probably some sort of military oriented surveillance device that was captured on film and so we consider it an ifo identified flying object and the explanation that it was recorded using it was um infrared correct MH so um in this case how would you describe the temperature here okay that's another interesting one I have another video I'm going to show you later that will show the same exact effect it could be for different reasons all right it not necessarily the object changing color it is the uh temperature (16:42) of the surrounding area changing or uh what is not seen is whether it went from Sunny to cloudy during the filming which would have change the complexion of the object and we have a video I'll show later uh hopefully it's in the in the mix that will show the exact same thing happening okay with that um let's do some real jellyfish when corell's video came out we obviously took a big interest in seeing whether or not it could be an actual phenomenon and we were very surprised by what we found out not only (17:21) in the muon CMS but also in some historical files that we have muon has all of uh the aerial phenomena research organization Aros old files and newspaper clippings and and newsletters and we were startled to discover that the earliest recorded uh Jellyfish that somebody reported and Drew was back in Peru in either 1947 or 1948 and what's very very interesting about this drawing are what look like the Cor pusles in the top of the head uh which sort of glowed red and the the closest thing I could compare it to is (18:03) if you crack open a pomegranate okay uh same color same thing and this thing was huge and it had a very very large tail and we're going to see this almost exact type of uh Jellyfish again later on from the mufon uh case management system so this is the earliest earliest uh one we have Peru 1947 1940 a if we could check out the next one we'll move forward this was from wehawken New Jersey in 2019 and basically guys looking out the window towards the New York City skyline and he sees this amorphous glowing (18:52) yellowish tentacled object flying over the Hudson River and again we have the same phen phenon decades later where it appears that there are Cor pusles in the head of the object just like what was seen in Peru years later what the the the the purpose of the cor pusles are I couldn't tell you the the thing that I'm trying to establish here is that there's a pattern in these creatures apparently that are very large and have these Corpus type things inside there their heads the other thing is the tentacles (19:31) you will see as we go along seem to Glow think of like a string of Christmas lights rotating patterns people describe this over and over when they see jellyfish sometimes it's green fluorescence in the the sparkling lights sometimes it's pale blue fluorescence in the sparkling lights in this case it was yellow fluorescent sparkling okay next next one now look at how similar this is to the last two especially the one from Peru this happened in uh was it I'll tell you a second it was in Europe uh oh yes it was (20:16) Croatia and essentially these four children three of them Drew uh pictures of it and again this one was phosphorescent green was Croatia 2006 I believe and the four four children Drew different things but this one is very similar to the Peruvian case in 1948 that the the head of this object glued a green fluorescent color and the tentacles sparkled uh sort of like shimmering coming down this the the children describe this as about 5T in length length hovering over a tree so this is child number one we have three (21:03) drawings from this if we could look at the next one this child thought that the object had windows in it and thought that there were two windows but essentially they're drawing the same thing and the third child Drew this so the question becomes are these organic or are these machines or are they both organic and machine sort of like the Borg if you will so this was this was from Croatia next case we started to get videos and uh still photographs this one was from uh mayac New York where there's these blobs (21:49) in the sky they're black like tar and they sort of they're not true jellyfish because they seem to break apart into almost like droplets falling from the sky only they're hovering and separating into two objects we have absolutely no idea what these things are and you you'll see that this one's from New York and the next one is going to be from where' It Go Sacramento California so we're getting more and more reports of these GL lobs in the sky and we're not really sure what's going on I'll (22:34) show you the next one too I I have question actually I I don't mean to to take you off your groove but this one caught my attention because you had stated that you've gotten a few cases where you have these things in the sky that are black is tar are there any conventional explanations for why something would be so dark while in the sky no I don't I don't know and the thing is that these these photos and videos are taken during the day so they seem to actually not be black because of Shadows or clouds or whatever but that's (23:08) the actual color of them and they're they're jet black absolutely jet black and in these move on cases were there any descriptions on how they moved at all or how they interacted with their environment by chance well yeah the the one person who took a video of of the next case uh he actually watched it for a while and like in this case the witnesses describe it as separating into separate objects so are we dealing with something organic or are we dealing with something that's a machine it it seems (23:40) very unlikely looking at this picture that that this would be a machine this looks like it's something organic in the sky back in the 1950s there was a fellow by the name of James Trevor Constable who wrote a book called they live in the sky and at the time he was taking infrared and UltraViolet uh shots of the sky claiming that there are actual creatures living in our atmosphere and this would be a a good example of what Tre James Trevor Constable was was photographing back in the 1950s okay this is this is the third thing this is (24:16) from Rhode Island this is an actual photograph it's it's pixelated because we had to blow it up but basically the object was was he said it was squid shaped and that it had tentacles uh coming down off the bottom of it he thought that this was about 20 to 25 feet in length so again this is another big one but this is the clearest picture we had he watched this object for 20 minutes so if you would say oh maybe it was just you know a puff of smoke from you know a tractor trailer it would not last in the sky for 20 minutes so that (24:53) is that is uh the third in that set of black globular objects the next one is very very unusual uh a man was flying out of Prague Czechoslovakia and this was back in 2021 and he's looking out the window there're about 3,000 feet in in altitude and he sees what looks like a black rectangle out in the distance and as he focused in on it he didn't have a a camera he had a pair of binoculars so he's looking out the plane window and he starts to see tentacles come out of the bottom of this black rectangular object (25:36) and then quickly go back in So this again begs the question what are we looking at are we looking at a machine or are we looking at something organic or are we looking at something that's both or is it a machine that's containing something organic inside of it and he said eventually it just got further and further away couldn't see it anymore I I have no explanation for for what this is muon doesn't I don't think anybody does how often do you see black rectangles in the sky with tentacles (26:09) coming in and out of them almost never probably never um okay another similar one this is from Maryville California and this is very similar to what the children in uh Croatia saw uh this one was drawn by uh several children but this is the only photograph I was able to uh get it this one reminds me of the the four children uh this one was also glowing with a pale blue color okay and from what the child drew it almost looks like it could be a machine it also looks like if you look at the bottom of the picture like the Globs we were (26:51) talking about before that something separated from it that the child saw fall from it so again what are we looking at I don't know but more and more uh we're seeing jellyfish and what's great about the muon uh database for not only members but field investigators is you can do a keyword search so it's very easy to type in jellyfish or squid and it's amazing some of the types of hits that you'll get out of the 140,000 cases all right where are we what are we up to what's next uh this is where we're starting to (27:30) get close to uh the indoor jellyfish this guy was in Texas uh this case was investigated by John eggy the state director of Texas guy's driving down this lonely Highway in the middle of the day no cars behind him and he sees what he thinks is sort of a squid-like object with lights or tentacles coming out the bottom of it he stops the car far because he's amazed at what he's looking at and the object is getting closer and closer and closer to him and he sees Mist coming out of it and all of a sudden he says that through the (28:12) windshield the Mist starts to cover his entire field of vision almost like it's enveloping him and then he felt a pain in his back a very bad pain and I'm going to go into that a little bit uh with you shortly all of a sudden he comes out of the stuper worried that somebody's going to slam into the car behind him field the vision becomes clear again object moves away off into the distance he wasn't sure whether it was a machine or whether it was a lot and what's important is that it seemed to be trying (28:48) to take him over all right um what do we have next in the slideshow this was from 1977 uh Russia the pet I can't even pronounce it the the padas phenomenon and this may have been uh an electrical phenomenon and not a real object I just wanted to throw it in here you know just so that we can keep the theme going this was seen by thousands and thousands of people in the sky over Russia back in 1977 let me give you a little bit of context on the Russian jellyfish UFO that was spotted September 20th 1977 the incident began when a bright object in (29:33) the sky that transformed into what Witnesses described as a massive jellyfish shaped craft approximately 300 ft across with golden tentacles displaying these beautiful colors and Witnesses reported seeing electric currents through their bodies during the encounter and many appeared ill afterwards the object reportedly released a smaller bulb-shaped crack that performed reconnaissance over local buildings before returning to the main object and this was reported by Tas and what makes this case particularly intriguing was the physical evidence (30:12) Left Behind the phenomenon's light beams created coin-sized holes in the ground and window sills and notably melted and distorted glass windows scientific analysis revealed an unexplained crystalline structure on the non-crystalline glass confirmed by both Soviet and Western scientists while Soviet officials conducted extensive investigations and even established a research program to study abnormal atmospheric phenomena no definitive explanation was ever reached though some attributed the event to the launch of a (30:46) Soviet satellite the cosmos 955 but this theory was contested due to the object's unusual movements and characteristics as well okay uh then Mar 1975 there's a lot of debate about this one whether or not it was an odd-shaped Cloud uh or whether it was uh one of the jellyfish that we've been discussing here it's a very very unique picture um thousands of people saw it and I'll leave it up to you what do you think that one is you think it's cloud or you think it's uh something else it's a very (31:22) strange looking Cloud for sure it's perfectly round on top and then you have these appendages coming near the bottom I've I love Cloud watching but I haven't seen a shape like this one before yeah it sort of looks like a lenticular cloud but the tentacles coming off the bottom of it are would not be standard issue for a lentic cloud so I'm sort of I'm sort of on the fence about this one also okay let's go to the next one uh this is where we get into the indoor jellyfish and this is this is (31:57) pretty creepy uh October 24th 2016 Vancouver Canada woman woke up in the middle of the night and she had a very high vted ceiling and she Drew this as what was up in the corner of her ceiling coming down slowly towards her uh it attached itself to her back like the gentleman in the car in Texas okay and she claimed that it was glowing again phosphorescent blue and the tentacles were sort of sparkling but at the end of the tentacles were metallic claws so again are we dealing with something organic or are we dealing with (32:46) something that's a machine or are we dealing with something that's both this is what happened when it attached to her back she woke up and saw it and it got scared and detached itself from her as if it knew that she was now awake she felt that it was draining her life force out of her and for the next several months she had very very very severe periods where it had attached itself to her back and it simply disappeared and the question is how are they getting in the bedroom where are they materializing from are (33:27) they coming from another space and time are they coming from another dimension because interdimensional is also a Hot Topic right now was it trying to steal her soul and that's why sometimes I wonder if some of what's going on now is demonic L alzando recently came out and said when we find out what it really is it's going to be very sobering and there's pretty much not much we're going to be able to do about it and I was like whoa that's a that's a dark comment from from L well this case is dark it's definitely giving (34:03) Matrix Vibes I'm looking at not the first movie but looking at the other ones uh it it's almost a carbon copy of that remember the date October 24th 2016 quick announcement I will be having a live get together where you can share your experiences play trivia games and win free merch for all of my patreon members that will be on November 9th that link is in the description box below and when you become a patreon member you get access to extra content you also get exclusive merch that I am not selling but giving out to my members (34:38) and so much more you really don't want to miss it the next one the Vancouver was October 24th 2016 the next case comes from Iran it was a middle-aged woman who woke up in the middle of the night uh in her bed and there was a luminous jellyfish attached to her head and then attached to her abdomen area in the front and she actually sent the photograph of the scar that it left it looked like it had performed surgery on her she felt it was trying to take her soul the oddest thing about it is that it occurred on October 16 October 24th (35:26) 2016 the exact same day as the Vancouver jellyfish that attached itself to the back of the woman who felt her soul was being sucked out so we have two cases on opposite sides of the globe on the same day doing the same thing to women where are they coming from what do they want how did they get into people's bedrooms now here's the scariest part of it these were from 2016 the next one the last one that you have in your your series here that you're going to show um and we can blow it up 1937 in Singapore 80 years earlier for (36:14) those who don't know Zelma Bramley Moore was a very famous psychic in the 1930s what we don't know these people today because you know Fame is fleeting but she was a very famous psychic author at the time she was a medium and she was traveling and she was in Singapore and Singapore and Malaysia and Indonesia we get a lot of really odd historical cases over the years of especially about orbs that the natives at the time in the 1930s and in the 1800s uh revered as as spirit gods okay so anyway Zelma wakes (36:52) up in the middle of the night in Singapore and says two or three feet from my face was floating a thing it was about the size and shape of a rugby football standing up on end and it appeared to be made out of some luminous gassy substance again radiating a pale blue light so over an 80e period all of these jellyfish both indoor and outdoor have a greenish or a bluish or a yellow luminescence and Sparkle all right and she says from its lower end uh she made out a substance she it it projected a tail which we would consider a tentacle this was about (37:36) as thick as one's thumb and about several feet long and if we continue the tail from the thing ran to the tip of it and seemed to be attached in some way to my forehead it was down this tail that my Vitality seemed to be flowing and into the footall full shaped visitor okay it realizes she's awake and it gets shocked by the surprise and it jerks away from her bed all right detaches from her forehead all right and then it it simply disappears so what is this phenomenon we're looking at is it one phenomenon (38:21) outo jellyfish is it two phenomena indoor jellyfish or are they are they interrelated do you know little indoor jellyfish grow up and turn into big outdoor jellyfish all right so I think it's a fascinating phenomenon that we've been witnessing and it's apparently been going on for a very very long time I have never Bob I have never heard of any cases like this before when researching UFOs even the even the Paranormal like these jellyfish shaped entities sucking out people's Vitality maybe even their soul according (39:00) to Witnesses it's dark it's scary and I and a lot of people just don't want to talk about it they they want to see ET and UFOs as our space Brothers here to protect the Earth and you know uh cure cancer but I feel like there's just so many facets to it and we just simply can't place all of our eggs in one basket of oh everything is great or everything is terrible we're we're dealing with so many different things here and this gel these jellyfish stories just add another layer to the (39:31) interest really the interest in this topic so yeah UFOs are not one phenomenon all right like I I said earlier and the more you see the different patterns uh the more you realize that there are a lot of actors for example when I when I do the research on on Time Travel I do believe people are trying to manipulate the timeline in a bad way and I also think there's sort of like time cops trying to re rework it back to the good way so I I do see opposing forces same things when people talk about space brothers and you (40:07) know evil little Grays all right uh it's there's definitely more than one team going on here it's almost like we have an entire league all right playing out in front of our eyes and who are you rooting for If You're Gonna Play fantasy football aliens I'm I'm rooting for the good time travelers is what what I'm rooting for Bob this has been an amazing presentation before we end Today's Show where can people find you online to stay up to date with your latest research well um I I publish a lot in Outer (40:39) Limits magazine and in the muon journal Outer Limits magazine is a British magazine I I post a lot of my articles there U I'm also mufon's director of international investigations and I always encourage people two things when I'm want to show is that one if you've seen something if you've been abducted if you're a pilot military I don't care if it happened in 1977 if you've had an experience of some sort if you've seen something if you have a photo or a video we analyze it go to mufon.com up in the (41:10) upper right hand corner you'll see report a UFO or report a an experience or Abduction the other thing I tell people is that this is one of the most fascinating things I have ever done in my life I have no regrets becoming a field investigator and if you want to become a field investigator uh I assure you you will uh hear stories from people that will make your hair stand up on the back of your head it's one of the most uh intriguing things I've ever done and I encourage people if you have any sort (41:40) of interest in investigating UFOs you you really should do it and the links that he mentioned will be in the description box below Bob thank you so much thank you Christine it was a pleasure meeting you and talking with you if you enjoyed the show hit that like button right down below and subscribe if if you haven't already as I do several shows right here every single week and hit that notification Bell so you not miss any of the videos that are posted right here I do also write articles for all the shows you can find (42:10) them on my website at strange paradigm.com that link is in the description box below that is it for today I will see you next time be safe and remember keep your eyes on the skies if you 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