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00:00 - They Call UFOs In?
00:56 - The UFO Recovery Teams
02:53 - Secret UFO Briefings
03:43 - The Hidden UFO Meeting
05:08 - A Pilot’s Secret UFO File
06:21 - FBI Calls About The UFO
08:03 - Silent UFO Over Nuke Base
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Show Transcript
How they actually had figured out how to call some of the ships in and then were under orders to destroy them and recover them. That is the Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. describing...
what former military recovery team members told him in private before he took office. Three months after Rolling Stone reported on his closed-door UFO meeting with Robert Bigelow, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is finally talking about UFOs on the record, and he admits the briefings he had received as health secretary were hard to believe.
Now, he's not the only one going on the record. The FBI has asked a retired Air Force test pilot to make his encounter near a NATO nuclear base public under his own name, and he agreed. Hey, Ufologists, I'm Christina Gomez, and this is your UFF News Update. Kennedy hosted Florida Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna on the newest episode of the Secretary Kennedy podcast.
Most of the interview covered food policy, obviously, but the turn came when Luna mentioned that nearly all the feedback her office receives falls into two categories, her health work and UAP. Kennedy laughed and told her that she had all the great issues and then shared a story that he hadn't told publicly before. During the transition, I was living in Palm Beach and this group approached me to talk about UAPs. Oh, really?
Yeah. And it was a very high level NASA scientist and then a bunch of Navy SEALs and Green Berets who had been on recovery teams. Crash retrieval programs. Right.
He recalled that some of what he was told sounded pretty wild, including the claim in our opening clip where that craft could be called in, then destroyed, and then recovered under orders. The group wanted Kennedy to take that story and make it public, but he turned them down, explaining he already carried enough criticism for questioning official accounts and didn't want to add this to his list. Luna did not agree at all to that. Her response pointed straight to the gap between testimony and evidence.
People will say a lot, but can you prove it? What is the actual data prover? Can you actually bring forward tangible evidence? And what's been cool is You know, we've pushed a massive declass effort and having the president on board with these declassification efforts is incredibly important.
And this does tie into also kind of, I guess, like the food industrial complex is what I'll call it. But, you know, specifically on these topics, we our job is not to tell you what to believe. It's just to present you with evidence and ensure that there's transparency. Yeah.
Luna's standard puts Kennedy's story probably in a little bit of a different light. On the podcast, he didn't mention any documents, photos, or footage from the Palm Beach group, and he didn't say whether he ever followed up with them after he took office. What he did share was a glimpse of what crossed his desk once he became health secretary. I have had briefings once I got in there, and it's pretty...
A lot of this stuff is really... really crazy. I know. It definitely kind of puts in perspective, you know, I always tell people social media is not real life.
Go out and look at the sky and kind of see how little you are in the realm of things in perspective. As for Kennedy, he never explained what his briefings covered, who delivered them, or why the head of the HHS would receive them. This is the first time Kennedy has addressed UAP on the record. But then back on July 2nd, Rolling Stone journalist Catherine Ebbin reported on a December 2025 meeting at HHS headquarters.
And according to that report, the White House sent billionaire Robert Bigelow to meet Kennedy about homelessness policy. Two people familiar with the meeting told Rolling Stone that the conversation turned to UFOs, that both men agreed non-human intelligence likely exists, and that Kennedy described his awareness of certain alien species. Since then, Bigelow addressed that meeting on the Bigelow podcast, and Bigelow later told George Knapp that he met President Trump in the Oval Office back in February and handed him seven briefing reports. One of them was about UFO disclosure.
Thirteen days later, on February 19th, Trump directed federal agencies to begin releasing UAP files. Coincidence? Luna also gave new details about her task force. When she was first named chair, people warned her it might be a setup designed to make her fail.
Her answer was that it was just that they picked the wrong time because the White House declassification turned out to be one of the most watched task forces in Congress. If you're enjoying these updates, subscribe to the channel so you do not miss the next one. Kennedy's account rests on what others told him. The next witness stood around 150 feet from the object himself, and the FBI now wants the account to be on public record.
Retired Air Force Colonel Dan Isbell, called named Tana, sat down with Ryan Graves for an interview on the Safe Aerospace podcast. Dan graduated first in his class at the Air Force Test Pilot School, flew 70 aircraft types, managed the F-22 program, and led directed energy weapons work at the Air Force Research Laboratory. He has described his 1980 encounter in earlier interviews, but what he just revealed to Graves is something that we really need to discuss here. because he first reported it to ASA, Americans for Safe Aerospace, on May 27, 2023, about two months before Graves testified to Congress.
Graves then arranged an interview with the FBI, and the Bureau kept his account private. Graves has previously told NewsNation that an informal FBI working group of more than a dozen agents follow up on UAP reports, and that ASA offers pilots to them. Dan explained that the FBI came back to him recently, and the reason ties directly to the president's February directive on UAP records. Take a listen.
When you and I first talked, it was again, you kept it private, and you got me in the interview with the FBI, and they kept it private until recently they contacted me under the president's order, remind if we release this story, we can leave your name out. I said, yeah, you can release it all now. So the FBI is preparing to make public a witness interview from the pilot who held top-secret clearance and sat on nuclear alert, with his name finally attached to it. Neither the FBI nor the Pentagon has announced when it will appear, however.
Dan kept quiet through two careers, and then after retiring, he spent about 20 more years teaching directed energy weapon courses on a top-secret contract, and he didn't want to risk that work. Seeing military pilots testify before Congress in 2023 convinced him pilots can and should report what they see, and once he fully retired, he decided he had nothing left to lose. He worked on unacknowledged special access programs. which is the most restricted category of classified projects, and recalled being walked through test sites wearing goggles that limited his view to the path ahead.
He did note, however, that secret programs have used UFO reports to cover for aircraft like the F-117. Even so, he ruled it out, reasoning that the military tests that kind of craft at remote ranges, not over English Gulf courses near nuclear bases. On December 26, 1980, Dan was a young F-111 pilot at the RAF Upper Hayford, a Royal Air Force base north of Oxford that hosted American jets. Around 10 p.m., driving home after a holiday nuclear alert shift, he saw lights close in fast behind his car and stood beside him over a golf course.
But I didn't know what it was. I didn't even know if there was anybody in it or anything. I didn't see any occupants. And it didn't ever actually land.
At least I didn't stay around long enough. But as I'm having that thought, and then all of a sudden I go, wait a minute, nobody has seen me out here. This is genuinely a UFO. It's not anything I can describe other than that.
But in the day, the vernacular would have been UFO, and I knew it was death on your career if you told somebody you had a UFO sighting, especially in the situation I'm in. So I quickly decided, No, my best course of action, because if that is some sort of ionization of the air through some sort of plasma, it might not be so safe to get within close range of it. So for my own protection, both physically from whatever that is, as well as mentally for my career, I headed back to my car, got in, and went on back home. I didn't tell a soul.
He drove home and told no one, not even his wife. Years later, a guard using an alias on Linda Moulton Howell's Earth Files described a similar craft over the Upper Hayford weapons storage area about three hours from Dan's sighting. Per the Earth Files episode notes, the same craft was reported at a nearby military base, which was the RAF Bentwaters, during the same days as the Rendlesham Forest incident. Dan waited more than four decades to attach his name, and now his account sits in an FBI file that could become public.
under the same directive that followed Bigelow's Oval Office visit. If the FBI releases Dan's file, do you think it will include reports tying his sightings to the reports from Upper Hayford or even from Bentwaters during that same week? Kennedy kept quiet when Rolling Stone first asked about his meeting with Robert Bigelow. And yesterday, he finally spoke about UFOs on the record.
I do go into greater detail on that original report from what the two sources described inside the HHS headquarters to how it lined up with Bigelow's Oval Office visit with President Trump. Watch this video next. I'm Christina Gomez. That is it for today.
I will see you again next time for another UFO News update. Be safe and remember, keep your eyes on the skies.
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Transcript
How they actually had figured out how to call some of the ships in and then were under orders to destroy them and recover them. That is the Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. describing...
what former military recovery team members told him in private before he took office. Three months after Rolling Stone reported on his closed-door UFO meeting with Robert Bigelow, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is finally talking about UFOs on the record, and he admits the briefings he had received as health secretary were hard to believe.
Now, he's not the only one going on the record. The FBI has asked a retired Air Force test pilot to make his encounter near a NATO nuclear base public under his own name, and he agreed. Hey, Ufologists, I'm Christina Gomez, and this is your UFF News Update. Kennedy hosted Florida Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna on the newest episode of the Secretary Kennedy podcast.
Most of the interview covered food policy, obviously, but the turn came when Luna mentioned that nearly all the feedback her office receives falls into two categories, her health work and UAP. Kennedy laughed and told her that she had all the great issues and then shared a story that he hadn't told publicly before. During the transition, I was living in Palm Beach and this group approached me to talk about UAPs. Oh, really?
Yeah. And it was a very high level NASA scientist and then a bunch of Navy SEALs and Green Berets who had been on recovery teams. Crash retrieval programs. Right.
He recalled that some of what he was told sounded pretty wild, including the claim in our opening clip where that craft could be called in, then destroyed, and then recovered under orders. The group wanted Kennedy to take that story and make it public, but he turned them down, explaining he already carried enough criticism for questioning official accounts and didn't want to add this to his list. Luna did not agree at all to that. Her response pointed straight to the gap between testimony and evidence.
People will say a lot, but can you prove it? What is the actual data prover? Can you actually bring forward tangible evidence? And what's been cool is You know, we've pushed a massive declass effort and having the president on board with these declassification efforts is incredibly important.
And this does tie into also kind of, I guess, like the food industrial complex is what I'll call it. But, you know, specifically on these topics, we our job is not to tell you what to believe. It's just to present you with evidence and ensure that there's transparency. Yeah.
Luna's standard puts Kennedy's story probably in a little bit of a different light. On the podcast, he didn't mention any documents, photos, or footage from the Palm Beach group, and he didn't say whether he ever followed up with them after he took office. What he did share was a glimpse of what crossed his desk once he became health secretary. I have had briefings once I got in there, and it's pretty...
A lot of this stuff is really... really crazy. I know. It definitely kind of puts in perspective, you know, I always tell people social media is not real life.
Go out and look at the sky and kind of see how little you are in the realm of things in perspective. As for Kennedy, he never explained what his briefings covered, who delivered them, or why the head of the HHS would receive them. This is the first time Kennedy has addressed UAP on the record. But then back on July 2nd, Rolling Stone journalist Catherine Ebbin reported on a December 2025 meeting at HHS headquarters.
And according to that report, the White House sent billionaire Robert Bigelow to meet Kennedy about homelessness policy. Two people familiar with the meeting told Rolling Stone that the conversation turned to UFOs, that both men agreed non-human intelligence likely exists, and that Kennedy described his awareness of certain alien species. Since then, Bigelow addressed that meeting on the Bigelow podcast, and Bigelow later told George Knapp that he met President Trump in the Oval Office back in February and handed him seven briefing reports. One of them was about UFO disclosure.
Thirteen days later, on February 19th, Trump directed federal agencies to begin releasing UAP files. Coincidence? Luna also gave new details about her task force. When she was first named chair, people warned her it might be a setup designed to make her fail.
Her answer was that it was just that they picked the wrong time because the White House declassification turned out to be one of the most watched task forces in Congress. If you're enjoying these updates, subscribe to the channel so you do not miss the next one. Kennedy's account rests on what others told him. The next witness stood around 150 feet from the object himself, and the FBI now wants the account to be on public record.
Retired Air Force Colonel Dan Isbell, called named Tana, sat down with Ryan Graves for an interview on the Safe Aerospace podcast. Dan graduated first in his class at the Air Force Test Pilot School, flew 70 aircraft types, managed the F-22 program, and led directed energy weapons work at the Air Force Research Laboratory. He has described his 1980 encounter in earlier interviews, but what he just revealed to Graves is something that we really need to discuss here. because he first reported it to ASA, Americans for Safe Aerospace, on May 27, 2023, about two months before Graves testified to Congress.
Graves then arranged an interview with the FBI, and the Bureau kept his account private. Graves has previously told NewsNation that an informal FBI working group of more than a dozen agents follow up on UAP reports, and that ASA offers pilots to them. Dan explained that the FBI came back to him recently, and the reason ties directly to the president's February directive on UAP records. Take a listen.
When you and I first talked, it was again, you kept it private, and you got me in the interview with the FBI, and they kept it private until recently they contacted me under the president's order, remind if we release this story, we can leave your name out. I said, yeah, you can release it all now. So the FBI is preparing to make public a witness interview from the pilot who held top-secret clearance and sat on nuclear alert, with his name finally attached to it. Neither the FBI nor the Pentagon has announced when it will appear, however.
Dan kept quiet through two careers, and then after retiring, he spent about 20 more years teaching directed energy weapon courses on a top-secret contract, and he didn't want to risk that work. Seeing military pilots testify before Congress in 2023 convinced him pilots can and should report what they see, and once he fully retired, he decided he had nothing left to lose. He worked on unacknowledged special access programs. which is the most restricted category of classified projects, and recalled being walked through test sites wearing goggles that limited his view to the path ahead.
He did note, however, that secret programs have used UFO reports to cover for aircraft like the F-117. Even so, he ruled it out, reasoning that the military tests that kind of craft at remote ranges, not over English Gulf courses near nuclear bases. On December 26, 1980, Dan was a young F-111 pilot at the RAF Upper Hayford, a Royal Air Force base north of Oxford that hosted American jets. Around 10 p.m., driving home after a holiday nuclear alert shift, he saw lights close in fast behind his car and stood beside him over a golf course.
But I didn't know what it was. I didn't even know if there was anybody in it or anything. I didn't see any occupants. And it didn't ever actually land.
At least I didn't stay around long enough. But as I'm having that thought, and then all of a sudden I go, wait a minute, nobody has seen me out here. This is genuinely a UFO. It's not anything I can describe other than that.
But in the day, the vernacular would have been UFO, and I knew it was death on your career if you told somebody you had a UFO sighting, especially in the situation I'm in. So I quickly decided, No, my best course of action, because if that is some sort of ionization of the air through some sort of plasma, it might not be so safe to get within close range of it. So for my own protection, both physically from whatever that is, as well as mentally for my career, I headed back to my car, got in, and went on back home. I didn't tell a soul.
He drove home and told no one, not even his wife. Years later, a guard using an alias on Linda Moulton Howell's Earth Files described a similar craft over the Upper Hayford weapons storage area about three hours from Dan's sighting. Per the Earth Files episode notes, the same craft was reported at a nearby military base, which was the RAF Bentwaters, during the same days as the Rendlesham Forest incident. Dan waited more than four decades to attach his name, and now his account sits in an FBI file that could become public.
under the same directive that followed Bigelow's Oval Office visit. If the FBI releases Dan's file, do you think it will include reports tying his sightings to the reports from Upper Hayford or even from Bentwaters during that same week? Kennedy kept quiet when Rolling Stone first asked about his meeting with Robert Bigelow. And yesterday, he finally spoke about UFOs on the record.
I do go into greater detail on that original report from what the two sources described inside the HHS headquarters to how it lined up with Bigelow's Oval Office visit with President Trump. Watch this video next. I'm Christina Gomez. That is it for today.
I will see you again next time for another UFO News update. Be safe and remember, keep your eyes on the skies.
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