RESEARCHERS SILENCED: What Nazca Body Tests ACTUALLY FOUND

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Hello Cristina, I'm so glad to be on your show. I've seen other interviews, and I really like your format, which is why I feel comfortable. We can start whenever you like.

I started in the communications world in 1990, in radio, all private stations, except for one time when I was at public radio, when I was very young. After five years in radio, I moved on to television, directly reporting news. I had to cover a war with a neighboring country, Ecuador. I was involved in the treaties, I was there when the peace was signed, I was in the war zone, I was in almost every Latin American country covering news, disasters, hurricanes, presidential meetings. I've been in Antarctica doing scientific research, also alongside expeditionaries. I've also done a lot of work in politics. I've seen the fall of dictatorial regimes, the resurgence of democracy. I've had the opportunity to speak with several presidents, with Hugo Chávez. We've discussed face-to-face with Hugo Chávez. I accused him of hiding Fujimori's corrupt advisor in his country, and he denied it.

A few months passed and Vladimir Montesinos fell in Venezuela, protected by Hugo Chávez. I've been through a lot in journalism, my thing was mostly politics, but since 2007 I left television, I formed my production company and I had the freedom to handle the topics I wanted without any kind of censorship.

In 2017 when the issue of the Nazca mummies began to appear on social networks, I was dedicating myself to making communications for companies. The main brands of vehicles, European, North American and Asian trucks were my clients. I worked with them, did communications for them, we even made programs and recordings that later appeared on major networks, like programs like Deadly Routes that appeared on History Channel for example or some other programs. They were made with images that we produced in Peru with my production company.

So I was on another path, let's say I had stopped being a war pilot to become a commercial pilot. I was living very peacefully with important clients, well recognized within my field, and the issue of the Nazca mummies appears. With that doubt and disbelief that all journalists have from the beginning, I started looking for information and I realized that there was something very strange about all this.

I saw a way to get closer. I sent a tweet to Jaime Maussan without knowing him and since he was in Peru and there was no Peruvian on his team, I told him I can advise you because as I have been to so many countries, I know the difference of arriving in a country where you don't know anyone, or the idiosyncrasies, or the way of doing things and how different it is when you arrive and someone is already waiting for you with a vehicle and has a whole plan set up. I offered him that without any kind of compensation in return. I said I just want to be close to this investigation, it seems to me that there are many strange things but it is enough that just one of those bodies is authentic, I think this could be groundbreaking.

When he accepted me I told him, 'Just in case, I am going to report it if something is not right, if they want to cover something up or something is said in a way that it is not, so I warn you from now on.' Of course Maussan told me, 'All freedom to write.' In fact, I have written my scripts, my documentaries without any kind of consultation. 'Jaime, I'm going to say this, what are you going to say?' 'No,' as competing journalists, each one reported in their own style, in their own way and with what they saw. I have had all that freedom until today.

That is why when the doubts that led me to investigate were cleared up by what came out of the tomographs, by what came out of the x-rays, by what the forensic experts said, by what the biologists said, then a journalist who only has testimonies, what is left for him to do? Report and realize that he is facing a unique event in history.

Truly being in front of a being of a tridactyl hominid species is a historical fact and not because I say so, but because the evidence points to the fact that we are facing the most important discovery in history. I have said this in other interviews, 10 or 50 generations of journalists before me, or 20 or 30 generations after mine, would like to have before their eyes the possibility of investigating something like this and it will not happen to them. It will hardly be their turn to have a case like this, of the worldwide magnitude and significance that this discovery has.

It is a privilege and a great responsibility, because let's forget about my credibility or my history or everything that I have done in journalism, it could burn if this were false. I thought so from the beginning. It has brought me more problems than benefits, however we continue with this because it is almost like a cause that seems fair to me, that this discovery be recognized as valid to continue being investigated.

We do not want, at least I do not want it to be taken everything that we have investigated as something absolute and truthful. What we want is for this investigation through the Peruvian government to be open to the best in the world, for the Peruvian government to give them permission to come to the University of Ica where several of these bodies are, so that the best in the world can investigate them, to take the necessary samples and take them to the most important laboratories. Because there is a discovery here that is unique, that is transcendental, that breaks with everything known and cannot be treated by the government of my country, by the successive governments that we have had in the last seven years, as a farce, as a lie.

Now I'm going to share some images. While the public obviously doesn't—I think they prefer to see these beauties than to see my face. We can stay between you and the mummy, but I'm here, I'll narrate off-screen better now.

When we saw Maria, who is this spectacular tridactyl being, the truth is that most of us were left with our mouths open. I would have missed a second camera to see their faces, their mouths open and their faces of disbelief at the spectacle of seeing a being of a species so similar to us, but with so many differences that take it out of what can be considered human: the dentition, its physical characteristics, those hands with those three very long fingers.

Then at the end of 2023, meeting these beings also that have similar characteristics but are no longer so far from humans. These are more like a child who could be running through a park. Of course it has different physical characteristics, it is also tridactyl and all the studies that have been shown and that have been done—and whose evidence and tomographies have been shown publicly through the journalistic investigation that we are doing, on your part, Jaime Maussan and I too—they make us see that this is a child of a different species.

If you notice, the eyes are angled at almost 45 degrees. It does not have eyes like all humans have. Even animals have horizontal eyes, there are no animals that have eyes like that, not even the oriental ones that can have the slanted eye. It is only a small feature, they do not have the 45 degree oblique angles of the eyes like this being. That cannot be manipulated.

Here you can see that white covering that they have that has been the preservative with which they have kept the complete internal organs of this being until today, makes it an extraordinary discovery. This cannot be said to be a doll created with animal bones.

Any researcher—look, let's start with something very simple, Cristina—there are already professors and researchers... Look at the fingerprints they have, they are linear. That does not exist in hominids, not even in monkeys. It is totally different from any type of fingerprint that has been seen before in similar human beings or in humans.

Look at the dentition as it has been maintained too. Of course the dentition can be maintained but look at the extremities that it has. Any serious professional, alone there in his office or in front of his x-ray equipment can see those tomography and rule out that there is any manipulation or that the ends of the fingers have been artificially cut to make them look like what they are not.

We are seeing clearly, this Sebastian who is spectacular, is a young man of approximately 12 to 14 years old, who has an enormous head. It has not been artificially deformed with bandages or splints or anything like that and look at the eyes he has. It also has an extreme angulation of 45 degrees. There is no human being on the planet, no monkey that has an eye like that. It is a different species, it is also tridactyl and it also has implants on the skin.

The implant that he has in the nape of his neck coincides with a large lesion that he has in the cervical. Look what we have found on the edges of the eye, it looks like a suture with which they have tried to close his eyelids. That could be equivalent to a modern medical suture, that was already done in the past.

Look at the implant on the back of his neck, it even has an inscription upside down on it and this can be seen clearly. Those hands are unique, there is no hand and there is no evidence of staples, metals or any way of joining bones, as scientists who do 'science from their desks' have unfortunately wanted to say, sitting somewhere in their house with their cell phones in their hands.

But they are not going to do science, they are not going to do research. Even living in Peru, there are scientists, scientists have come from Mexico, from the United States, from different countries even from Russia, to do what they do not do and they are still criticized.

This for me was what we called in April of this year the definitive proof. Monserrat is a tridactyl being, also as you can see her nails are preserved, her fingers. Look at the extremities of her hand, that hand has not been trimmed nor have any bones been increased. There is no sign of manipulation according to four forensic experts who have analyzed it. Radiologists have analyzed it, anatomists have analyzed it, traumatologists, experts from different professions and trades who note that these are completely original hands, they have not been manipulated in any way. The difficulties have arisen since the scientific community tried to silence this case. They've tried to vilify it, to deny its veracity, they've tried to falsify the evidence because it's something that puts them in check. From the beginning, without evidence, without any analysis, they've exposed themselves to worldwide ridicule by saying that these beings similar to us were humans who had been mutilated for commercial purposes, to make documentaries, to stage a show and shock the public.

What's happening? More and more professionals—the list now exceeds 50 professionals—have participated in this investigation and have done some kind of research on these bodies, and they've revealed that this tridactyly, the three fingers, are original; nothing similar exists in the world. Look at that implant on the forehead; the metal has interacted with the surrounding skin, and there's physical evidence of this. They can't simply deny what's there.

That's the moment we detected that she was pregnant with a closed cervix. Here's the head, the cervical spine, the spine. Dr. David Ruiz, you interviewed him, of course. He and the radiologist detected the existence of a tiny being, just a few centimeters. Here's Rafael, here's his head, this is the spine, and here you can see one little leg and the other also bent, articulated, see here? That's the femur, and these are the bones in the lower part. This is the head, of course. This is a 3D reconstruction. We don't have to open the mummy to take out the fetus and show that it's a fetus. You can see it using technology. Technology is being used. Of course, there may be much more powerful CT scanners, but this is already a base.

This can't be faked, Cristina, and I'll tell the public this too: there's no way to fake something like this. Do you think someone could be capable of opening a pregnant human mummy, mutilating its fingers to make it tridactyl, and leaving no evidence? That's impossible. This is surprising because, also using artificial intelligence, we've clarified the details and have been able to see how, while it's a tridactyl hand, the fetus is also tridactyl like the mother.

How do you do something like this, you scientific geniuses? How do you do this, for God's sake? The thing is, it's mind-numbing, it leaves your degrees painted on the wall, they're going to be worth half as much or less because they've gone ahead and trashed, belittled, and tried to denigrate and hide one of the most important discoveries in history. They're the ones who should have set the record straight from the start, approached the investigation, and arrived at it like I did, like many others have, with doubts, with suspicions, investigated, done what we're doing, and produced their results. That's what they should have done, not written little letters, ridiculous documents, speaking out against the attack on human mummies, mutilating them to make documentaries. Like this? Like this? And now? Why do you think they want to cover this up? That's why they're reburying all the mummies, why they're reburying them once and for all, to get rid of that sword they have hanging over their heads.

Because I don't know when this will really become a little bigger. This is already being talked about everywhere, not at a mass level, because the media has made sure that this remains on the margins of the population, but this is already growing in a way that, how can I put it, it's already gotten a little out of control.

Here we are looking at some of the images we also have of the other beings, the 3D reconstructions, but I think if you talk to me about the difficulties, look, here are Santiago's footprints, the linear footprints I was telling you about, no type of hominid has them. And why do we say hominid? Because they are very similar to us. We belong to the hominid group. Now we are finding in these beings that there have been tridactyl hominids.

What's the origin of these? We don't know. How did they appear and leave nothing behind? We don't know, which is why we want to investigate, which is why some people at the congressional hearing are calling us crazy, like we've done something crazy. Why are they going to Congress? It's a waste of time. No, these footprints have made the news in many places around the world, in Japan, in the United Kingdom, in the United States. But here in Peru, Cristina, do you think they've appeared, if you will, a line, a tiny photo at the bottom of a newspaper or in the miscellany or in that section? How crazy is the world? Nothing.

It has appeared in the science pages, just to talk about preservation, that whitish color that some ignorant people say is plaster, with which they have made up the mummy so that it is not visible what they have cut out of it. Only the desiccation could be the subject of a researcher's thesis and it would be a goal, a tremendous goal, to talk only about the preservation that these desiccated beings have maintained for more than 1,500 years, at least, in the land of diatomeas. From this flea that millions of years ago were microscopic algae that lived in the sea, this has been mixed together with the cadmium chloride that is in the formula, it is a totally toxic substance, lethal to humans, but those who desiccated these bodies, impregnated the skin before applying the earth of diatomeas, they applied the cadmium chloride as an adhesive, like the substance to which the earth of diatomeas stuck and that is why it does not fall off so easily, this is what they have maintained the preserved bodies.

In some of these small bodies that have been highly questioned for their size, their shape and because they resemble science fiction aliens, they had eggs, some of these, and inside these eggs it has been found that it is organic material. They are not stones, they are not metals, they are not crystal balls or anything like that, they are gestation eggs. Some geniuses have said 'but there can be nothing more solid than bones, because they look so white,' they are right, there can be nothing in a living being that can be harder than a bone. Here these eggs look more solid, why? Because with desiccation something very interesting has happened: the eggs have lost moisture, they have lost water and have become increasingly solid and the bones have been losing calcium over time and become a little more transparent. That explains why the gestation eggs look more solid apparently, well they look more solid than bones, why? Because it has been an inverse process, while the bones have been decalcifying, the eggs have lost moisture and have become more solid, more rigid, harder.

It was not only the professionals from the university who did not stop there, what they did was tomography and also the Incari Institute which was the pioneer in the discovery, the first to announce this extraordinary discovery, they did their tomography and look what those from the Incari Institute discovered, that inside it is obviously not a stone, but inside it is an organic form that could be from a fetus. Look what you see here, when you remove the organic layers you are left with this. The professors from the University of Inca also did their own tomography and what you see here is the head of the little being, here you see the arms extended a little forward and this is the rest of the body. These are tomography scans, they are not 3D animations.

And here Montserrat, as I showed you a little while ago, has in the internal part of her body also a little baby that we named Rafael. I mean there are so many things that make this discovery more than worth continuing the investigation, opening a much deeper investigation with the most qualified professionals that exist in the world. Science is the one that has the floor in this, however we have to see that with some ritual pieces, with some little dolls, they have wanted to disable the discovery.

These are pieces that were sent to the office to the public ministry, look they send them by mail to the office and they use this to say that everything we are investigating is false, when they have no origin, nor the same shape, nor do they have almost anything in common except the attempt to look like one of the real bodies of 60 centimeters. Look at the feet of this mummy simulation and look at the feet of this crow that was found near the Nazca lines, look at the comparison of the hands. Here they have made three little lines above this finish and look compare it with the hands, even the forensics have found the tensor tendons that make us able to make the fingers point downwards, that is why that little finger arches, because the muscle has tensed and has made the finger go downwards, that cannot be falsified either.

Compare it also, look at the part of the head, this kind of head and look at the shape that it has, totally different, and there is a harmony between the head, the neck, the thorax, there are no frames, these are not heads of a Eugene. And this is part of the study that another group of professors has been doing, because behind all of this Cristina and your audience I want to tell you that there are not only journalists or independent researchers, there are study groups already from four universities in Peru, four universities.

Do you think that professors from three public universities, some of the most important in Peru and a study group of professors from a private university in Cusco, are going to be playing with dolls risking their careers, their prestige, even being made fun of by their own students or fired from their jobs? Because you know that students can protest and complain about the teachers they have obviously and they can lose their jobs. They are making scientific publications about this discovery, they have worked on the orbits, they have worked on the size of the skull, on the dimensions that they have.

This skull of Paris is original, nobody has modified it and molded it to have that appearance, look at the thickness of this skull of Paris, and look this is the skull of a conventional human, like you or me. In some parts it is double or triple the thickness of a normal human skull, and besides size, the brain capacity of a human is, in relation between the face and the skull, it is 1 to 1, I think another teacher had already told you that, and Maria is 1.3, that is, 30% more brain capacity, that could be the most intelligent even of us.

And that is the culminating part of the DNA, of the DNA study, of the bioinformatics study that Maria did, which has something impossible for current science. Putting together all the money from Bill Gates, from Elon Musk, from all over the world, you could not put together the DNA of these two individuals, of a human, of a bonobo, of a bonobo in transformation. Now add these three and add a fourth element, an unknown DNA in genetic libraries, and all these four DNAs give you Maria, a tetra hybrid being. Let a scientist, a geneticist, explain this to me, how could this be done 1800, 2000 years ago, when we can't even do it now.

Anyway, there is a lot, this is what scientists have to do before filling their mouths with lies, fallacies. Go to the place, investigate, as John Van Gogh's team did, or Rodriguez, or Salsic, who came to the University of Ica, they were their own teams, and they began to transparently see Maria's joints. That's what a scientist does, not little letters, complaining, talking about manipulation, talking about commercial ends, manipulation of a human mummy, to take away its dignity, and everything, and show off.

They look at Ponce Rato's limbs, totally harmonious, they look at the separation between each finger, to a greater extent, because obviously they have to compensate, we have five fingers, they have three, and in that way, as the forensic experts explain, that separation cannot be balanced either, and that separation of the fingers is to maintain support, to be able to stand.

Here we were doing the live broadcast for the conference that was held in Los Angeles with the author David Ruiz, the tomography scans were taken in front of doctors and forensic experts, and they were analyzed live. It could be seen that there was no sign of manipulation, that all beings are original, the bodies that are in that form, lived in that form as well, there is no type of... That was at the end of March of last year, a dozen cameras and nothing came out on television, but we are about to turn a year.

January 12th will mark a year since this pompous press conference that the Ministry of Culture held, with some officials fingered, the strings are not visible I think because they have become experts, they do it on their own. They grabbed some dummies that they confiscated at the airport and used them to say that everything we are investigating, what is at the university, is the same as those dummies that they have. It makes no sense. To say that they would have had to have gone to the university, studied the bodies that are there and show their results, but no. Instead of going to the university, they prefer to receive what they are sent, confiscate some handicrafts from the airport and play with them.

That's why I jokingly call them doll experts, because they are experts in dolls, they analyze dolls, we analyze desiccated bodies. That's why when they say they have found rubber, chicken bones, plant fibers, they are right because that is what they will find if they analyze dolls. If they go to the university, they will find tetra-hybrid DNA, they will find original tridactyl beings, they will find skins with a totally different texture, with a totally different structure than ours, they will find totally different things. They will not find staples, they will not find glue, they will not find anything.

Obviously, if they dedicate themselves to studying handicrafts, to investigating handicrafts, that is what they will find. Everyone finds what they want. And well, for your audience, suddenly, some may have seen this, but the tridactyls, there are indications and vestiges of tridactyls since ancient times.

This figure here for example was found in Iraq about 600 years ago, the shape of the head is very similar to that of Maria, in Iraq. Here is another body also from the Nazca and here is a cave painting that is about 11,000 years old as well. This one was found in Palpas near Nazca, a tridactyl. I took this photo and digitally enhanced it, it was found in Huánuco, in the Andes of Peru, also another tridactyl and we have Mexico, Pilares of Peru, there are tridactyls and here there is like a tiny tridactyl inside too. Look, this large tridactyl has its tiny tridactyl.

In different areas of Peru there are these types of tridactyl weavings. It is not that they did not know how to weave five fingers, but the beings they saw had these shapes of heads, eyes that were almost half the size of the face and they had three fingers. It was not a whim, it was not an inability. Instead of being created, there are tridactyls in vases, on looms, we have them in Chile, look here there are tridactyls in Chile also, in California, in Australia, 47,000 years ago. Look at the shape of the heads, the shape of the cap of the Nazca beings, there are many vestiges of tridactyl beings in different parts.

Even in an exhibition of the Ministry of Culture of the Peruvian government they exhibited a doll made of rags, with fabrics, with textiles and the doll also has three very long toes. Look, it's not a coincidence, this is an official exhibition at the Museum of Art in Lima. The fingers are there too, three long toes. Because they lacked fabric, they lacked wool to weave? No sir, they were drawing, they were creating a doll that represents what they saw, beings, tridactyls that have also been in Argentina, Venezuela, Cuba.

And this is a very interesting stone that they found in Peru, which is a sculpted stone that apparently has the crossing of two species, a hand with five fingers and one with three. These filaments here could allude to DNA, these three objects coincide with the position of Orion's belt. It could be the origin, it could be some kind of symbol of hybridization or coexistence, I don't know, but this was found in an archaeological site in Ambo. Ambo is in the central Andes of Peru.

And well, this is the most recent thing we found, what we had access to. We didn't find—I haven't found anything, I only report what others have found. Stones have been found that have this entanglement, which could be diatomaceous earth. I'll explain, the whitish thing is the diatomaceous earth that also covers the bodies. Part of the surface has been cleaned so that the symbols there can be defined, but the diatomaceous earth is also on these stones. Or could it be a form of communication? It's very likely. The support of linguists and experts is needed who can help with this but what we know is that they have been part of the context of the discovery, of the environment of the mountains.

Recently also, as if Peru needed more reasons to be visited, Artificial Intelligence, thanks to Yamagata University, found 303 new figures in Nazca, enigmatic figures, beings as strange as these.

Anyway, Cristina, the truth is that I would like your comments, your questions too. Well, in the final part I have put some of my networks, let's see if I can still find it here, until the end I have a Twitter account, email is the easiest, but I am also in ex, this Facebook is temporarily suspended, someone intervened my account. But on Twitter, on YouTube and on TikTok I am like @joismantilla. Thank you too for your time and greetings to all your audience, thank you Cristina.