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00:00 - Why Argentina?
05:11 - Dionisio Llanca Abduction Case
22:00 - Argentina's UFO Investigation Protocol
24:45 - Military UFO Encounters & Reports
41:00 - The 1963 Trancas Family Encounter
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Show Transcript
Cristina Gomez: The most comprehensive documented UFO wave didn't actually happened in the US, but today we're going to Argentina. There are some very insane documented cases by civilians and by the military and that's what today's show is all about. Hey you followers. I'm Cristina Gomez and welcome to this episode of Mysteries with the History. Let me bring in my co-host Jimmy Church of Fight Black Radio because we have so much to cover. Jimmy, happy Thursday. How you doing?
Jimmy Church: Happy Thursday. Here we go. Wow. Thursdays are always uh one of the busiest days for me. It's it's wrapping up the week. I have three shows that I do and and everything else that is involved. And my highlight of my Thursday is being here with you and uh and everybody else. So yeah, here we go. And Argentina today, Cristina. Team after after after I won't I won't tell everybody about our text earlier today but but after that text uh text back and forth uh thing I have to ask why Argentina because this I truly don't know do I we haven't done a show in Argentina I I well we've covered cases in other shows that have like infiltrated but we haven't done a full show on the country.
Cristina Gomez: And the great thing about this show that we do together, Jimmy, mysteries with a history, we've covered so many we've focused on so many different countries and states going from California all the way to India and we've covered South America as a whole, but it seems that Argentina needs its own episode. There's so many things that have happened. Last and final answer. That's my last and final answer and I'm stamping it on a sheet of paper.
Jimmy Church: Yeah, it's uh I I we we cover South and Central America so much because so much is going on down there and we've done so many shows now that they all kind of run together. It's been a lot of years, you know. Yeah, for sure. For sure. And uh you're right. You're right. I can't argue with that. Argentina, I think every country down there uh kind of deserves its own day.
Cristina Gomez: Well, we've done a Brazil day. We've done Brazil. We've done Peru. We've done Chile. Now we're doing Argentina.
Jimmy Church: Now, now we're doing Argentina. And so I went, we'll we'll get into this later because this first case is is is full-blown crazy town. Oh. Um, uh, both, well, we've got two, uh, close encounter cases that are, that are pretty nuts, but I compiled a list. I got, uh, one of the documents from the Argentine military, uh, that they used at a press conference that they released a bunch of cases that they were investigating. And I have that list and it's pretty wild. So, we'll we'll get to that. That's our done moment. We we will get to that, but uh we're going to start uh I'll hand it off to you. Uh the 1973 case of Dionisio and uh Llanca is his name. And it's it's pretty nuts. It's pretty nuts. Do you have images?
Cristina Gomez: I do. I have drawings, artist renditions for this one. this case. Uh we're going to get into this uh pretty pretty deeply uh as quickly as we can because we have so many other cases to cover. But um this case, I don't want to get ahead of our skis, but there are certain details about this case when you get into the minutia of it that I find completely fascinating.
Jimmy Church: and the way that he uh described the interior of the ship with multiple screens and and that showed stars on them, you know, monitors. I I thought that that was interesting. But they also had um a breakdown, mechanical breakdown and and stuff uh inside of the craft. And the three beings that came up I again I we'll we'll circle back to this. Two were male, one was female. And as it turns out in the case, I don't know if we're going to touch upon this. I wanted to mention it in front that she was the engineer. She was the mechanic. She's the one that put the ship back together. And it was how he explained it in the detail that he did that I just find really compelling. So, uh, let's get into this case. will circle back uh to the repairs that were done and and how that happened, but take us to October 27th, 1973.
Cristina Gomez: Yeah, very close to Halloween. It's definitely more of a spooky story. And so, Dionisio Llanca began what should have been a pretty normal drive to Bajia Blanca um all the way to Rio um Gayos. And he was just he's a truck driver. was just minding his own business, doing the just doing the routine stuff. But Llanca was an experienced 25year-old truck driver. And after dinner with his uncle, his name was Enrique Ruiz. He departed at about 12:30 a.m. in his uh Dodge 600 truck loaded with construction materials. And after an hour into his journey, he experienced, this is really strange, he experienced a flat tire due to the heavy loads pressure. At least that's the explanation for it. And then at 1:15 a.m. He was alone on this isolated road. He began changing the tire when the night freaked him out for the rest of his life.
So he mentions and he recounts later, he says, "I break the car on the shoulder. I got out. I took out the jack and tools and began to change the tire and the the road was completely deserted. All at once, the road was illuminated with this very intense yellow light that seemed to be about 2,000 meters away." And initially thinking the light might be headlights from an approaching vehicle, Llanca just continued doing his job. just continued changing the flat tire. But these lights began to intensify dramatically, changing from yellow to bluish like an electric arc welder. That's the way that he described it. And then he continues of, "I tried to get up, but I I was paralyzed. I I literally couldn't stand up. I had no strength. And the strange thing was my legs wouldn't respond. I was on my knees and I wanted to get up and look towards the woods that grew along one side of the road, but he wasn't even able to do that.
And then he mentions that then I saw a great thing in the form of a plate or in this case a saucer suspended in the air at about 7 m high and three people were at my shoulders looking at me like a kind of what we're seeing in the image here on screen. I tried once more to get up, but I couldn't. The paralysis became so extreme that I couldn't even talk. And these three beings observed him for about 5 minutes, but in this case for Llanca , it felt like a lifetime. And he described them as Jimmy had mentioned, two men, one women woman distinguished by the woman's breast formation and the long blonde hair reaching to the middle of her back. That's how he was able to decipher between the two genders. And the men also had blonde hair, but they were a bit shorter. And they were wearing identical single piece smoky gray overlays with yellow boots and these long type of gloves. And they carried no visible weapons uh or belts or helmets of any kind. They were pretty simply dressed.
And right off the cuff, Jimmy, we've covered different types of alien species of of people that have told stories of what certain aliens look like. These ones being blonde and and pale and not incredibly tall, but like decently enough, they sound similar to the Nordics, don't they?
Jimmy Church: Yes, they do. Um, what uh what was interesting? Yes. Yes. Yes. The answers are yes, yes, and yes. there. Um, what he had said was they were they were fashion forward. The boots, the yellow boots matched the yellow gloves that went halfway up their arms. Um, that the grayish uniforms were were tight fitting. Um, but they were he they were there obser he didn't see them come up. Okay, this is what's interesting about this case. And I remember uh first researching this many many years ago and um I've always been fascinated with it. It seems that uh when the yellow light first off he's on a dark road. The yellow light appears uh he doesn't know if it's another car approaching. He's a truck driver. He knows what traffic is. He uh but it was a yellow light that seemed pretty bright and to illuminate the area. and he was there working on uh his tire on the truck, but the yellow light turns to blue and he doesn't see the craft above him. He doesn't see these three humanoids, species, beings, whatever you want to call, um standing there just looking at them. He's looking in the other direction. Then he turns around and there they are, right? and they're just staring at him for five minutes uh with nothing going on. But he was able to uh take it all in.
And you're pretty accurate there in in describing what he saw, which was that they all had blonde hair. The woman was in the middle, the two men were flanking her. Um he did say it was obvious to him that she was a woman, right? And he gave his reasons why. Um but he said yeah that they had uh single piece tight fitting uh gray suits on uh yellow boots, long gloves reaching to the middle of the arm uh that were also yellow and they didn't appear to have any weapons and uh no belts which was pretty interesting. No helmets so they were breathing oxygen. Um, but this is where for me after that it gets pretty strange, doesn't it? Um, they put a device on his finger. He described it as uh maybe you can help me out with this, but he describes it as uh looked like a razor blade with a tube on it. So, I'm not sure. Now, the razor blade makes you think that it was there to cut, but it wasn't. it was placed on his finger.
Um, so there was that, but they take him on board the craft. They had issues with the craft. Um, but he was able to look around and he gave I don't want to say a typical description of the interior of the craft. I would say it was completely atypical. It was different than what we have heard in the past. Um, that the floor was a dull gray metal. Um and there was equipment everywhere and uh which he mentioned uh the screens that had uh stars on them. Right now that I never really heard that type of description before the way that he presented it, Christine. I I always found that uh very very interesting. He described cables on the floor. Yeah. Cables. And And it it it just seems authentic uh the way that he described the interior of the craft that you know what I mean. It didn't seem like it was following some other narrative that we have heard in the past.
Cristina Gomez: Well, to me, when I was looking at this and the details that you brought up and the description of how these looked, it's definitely giving 70s sci-fi movies. uh the c like the outfits for sure were very fashion forward during that time frame. Yeah. Yeah. Um and then also mentioning cables as well on on the craft. But one thing that really does make it stand out to where it can't necessarily be, you know, a big old hoax of, oh hey, I'm making a really funny movie and you're the joke. In this case, Yanka had mentioned that when they were communicating with one another, there were no vocal inflections, but it sounded like radio badly tuned in with chirps and buzzes, right? And on top of that, um, before he gets on the spacecraft, according to his testimony, one of the beings grabbed him from like the the his his sweater. Yeah, his his arm and his sweater collar lifted him firmly but without violence. And uh he mentioned that he tried to speak but he wasn't able to because right before this incident he was paralyzed. Remember he wasn't able to move by any means.
And then he gets this this this razor with a small tube is seen by him and it's this type of painless application but it drops two drops of his blood from his finger into the tube and then that's when he loses consciousness. Mhm. And this correlates similar to the coloris Brazil incident with the chupa chupa where people believe that their blood was being taken from them. There was another incident in the 1200s where a priest had encountered something very similar that was mentioned by Diana Pulka in her research not too long ago. So we are seeing this consistent theme of the extraction of blood but a very minimal amount.
Jimmy Church: Yeah. And so he he wakes up, he's confused, starts walking, gets some assistance, eventually makes it uh to the police station. Uh medical assistance is there. He passes out again. He wakes back up. He doesn't remember anything, right? And then um they induced uh a hypnosis. Also, there were some drugs that were involved and I think it was like sodium penithol or something like that. But then the memories started to come back. So everything that we hear and and we know now from the reports that were done uh came after the fact. But immediately after the encounter, he just woke up uh you know between a couple of cars and and didn't know anything and didn't remember anything. It came back later. Another for me a very fascinating part uh to this story. Many many people interviewed him uh about this case. They did. And something else that we this is one detail that we don't hear often is that he was missing a few belongings. His watch was missing. His cigarette lighter. His cigarettes were gone. And but but his money was untouched. Still in his wallet. Still there in full. But not his watch, not his lighter, and not his cigarettes. ET doesn't doesn't need money. No, of course not. ET doesn't need money. But but they but they like a smoke once in a while, you know. They like to fire up a heater. You know, they know what a lighter is. But that uh I I always thought that that was a pretty interesting part of this case.
Um the case has stayed there. It it hasn't changed and it's it's just another encounter except the way that he was abducted. There wasn't any violence or anything like that. But that to have the beings without helmets, I find that very very interesting. Uh, no weapons or anything else. But there was something that was mentioned to him um on the craft before we move on. We've got so much to cover. Um, they said, "Hey, is it cool if we hang out on your planet?" You know, Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and and they said that uh some of the normal warnings that we have heard, look, just take care of this planet. It's a it's a beautiful place. We like it. We would like to hang out here, but you guys are destroying it. And then they reveal to him that they have been in contact since, you ready? The 1950s. Yeah. 1950s. Since Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Been in contact since 1950. very very strange details in this case for something that happened back in 1973.
Cristina Gomez: It is and I want to talk about this for a moment. I think it's really important the way that we have described ET and UFOs have differed through the ages. uh not only with our language and how we describe them, but also our perspectives on these types of entities where now people believe that when fairies were very commonly seen in the 1800s, they might have been ET of some kind. What if for Llanka, he's seeing these as like superhero beings from like sci-fi movies in the 1970s? What if these entities were attempting to tap into his form of perception and consciousness of appealing to him in a way that would be like, "Hey, we're super cool and advanced, but also human enough to where you shouldn't fear us." I I thought about that when doing the research for this episode, just because the details of how they looked seemed so out of the ordinary. He wasn't afraid.
Jimmy Church: No, he wasn't afraid. And uh now if there is one part to this I just wanted to mention really quick before we move on. Uh very similar description to the Travis Walton case. All right. Now, so if you go back to the Travis Walner, there were different uh beings that were on that craft, but he does have the encounter with the humanoid beings. Blue outfits, yellow gloves, yellow boots, blonde hair. Very, very similar. Now would would Travis and Dianio know each other or of know of each other's cases? Probably not. Not in 1973. And what Travis was doing his encounter, you know, was 1977. So when you look at it in those terms, would they have known of each other? No. And had the details of their cases? No. There are things that are astonishingly similar for me with Travis Walton and who he encountered and who Den Dianio encountered. Very fab fascinating aspect of this. I always look for I'm trying to connect dots. I think we all are.
Cristina Gomez: Yeah, we're all seeing these overlaps. you know what's well when you get those overlaps from people that have not talked to each other you know it it like the Lonnie Zamora case uh and the symbol that was on the side of that craft that symbol was seen all over the world in different encounters and that symbol was never released at that time by Lonnie Zamora and I I you know it's those you know you know what I mean those are interesting overlaps that you need to take a look at and and just wonder. Um, uh, you don't want things polluted. You don't want cases contaminated. And that goes with any type of investigation or anything that anybody is doing. There are certain things you just don't reveal to the public because you don't want it to interfere with your work and your research and your investigation. It's really that simple. And in this case, we have that. I I just find that very, very interesting.
It is. And we still have so much to cover, but first, um, X Sky, Steve, and Brett, thank you guys so much for supporting the channel and those super chats. And another great way to support this channel is to hit that like button right down below and subscribe if you haven't already. When we're looking at Argentina, they have their own protocols on investigating UFOs because back in 1962, they did encounter a UFO flop for consistent amount of months. really all throughout 62 and 63 there were a lot of different UFO sightings. So, the Argentinian uh Navy responded by creating the world's first official military UFO investigation protocol, distributing 2,000 standardized questionnaires to bases nationwide, which is a really interesting detail. And then, you know, decades later, a senior military commander alleged that back in May of 1962, because again, the 60s, which is a really hot time globally for UFO sightings, there was a crash near a naval base. And he claimed alien bodies were recovered and secretly transferred over to the United States with CIA documents. Dun dun dun. Apparently cooporating parts of his account that Wow. Why is the US always involved? Jimmy, that's that's my first question. What's going on?
Jimmy Church: You know, I would say in a general sense, most countries don't have the capabilities to deal with something like this, to transport a craft, to backwards engineer it, um, alien bodies, technology, and everything else that they just don't have the the ability to do that, right? And if the United States gets whiff of something like this and they've got their fingers in so many pies around the world and certainly in they're not central. Yeah. North, Central, and South America. Um, so when this happens, you've got to get the craft off your lawn. You know, how do you do that? Well, you call the United States. They come in, they secure the area, they sanitize the area, they take everything with them, uh, like nothing ever happened. And it's taken back to the United States where we have the facilities, the people, all of the logistical stuff that goes into place for the transportation, autopsies, storing of bodies, medical research. All of that can happen here in the United States, but it's not going to be happening in a small country like Ecuador or Paraguay or Europe. You know what I mean? It's it's just not going to happen. And I love Peru and I love Chile and I love Argentina, but these are countries that just are not set up to deal with stuff like this.
Now, if we go back, let's go back for a second uh to the Espora Naval Air Base and those encounters at Bajia Blanca 1962. So, if we take a look at this, we're talking about May 22nd, which is what you just brought up. The military brought up uh this wave of stuff that happened, and this was at about 8:30 uh at 9:00 in uh the evening uh May 22nd. A squadron of fighters in the vicinity of Bajia Blanca's uh Comedant Espora Naval Base reports the presence of UFOs along its flight path. The interception lasted 35 minutes. Direct witnesses to the incident were Lieutenant Ralpho Caesar Galdos and his student Roberto Wilkinson. And report number 02779 causes the first official acknowledgment by an Argentinian military wing agency or anybody else within the government. It is a crucial case when we look at uh Argentina.
Now, if we fast forward and I talked about this uh earlier. So, let me let me do this before we uh uh get to the uh other abduction or the other close encounter that we're going to do. The reports that were released, now listen to the timeline here, all right, that were released by the Argentinian military to the press from an official report that they had put together. The one case that started all of this off as we have mentioned was in 1962 on May 22nd at Bajia Blanca's uh Espora Naval Base and all of the direct eyewitnesses and everybody else that were involved with this went completely on the record and official reports were written up. All right.
The next case that happened after that was over Floresta District September 8th 1962. Lieutenant Juan Jose Viko cited and check this out, Cristina. This is a done dun done. A burnished metal, right? Burnished metal lenticular UFO is a disc shaped from the side. Lenticular cloud UFO making smooth and controlled maneuvers. That is directly from the official military report.
Shortly after that at IISA International Airport in Buenosares, December 22nd, 1962, this is just a couple of months later, a UFO was cited about 300 a.m. Now, the tower operators, the flight controllers were Horatio Allora and Mario Pizudo, and they're they were there doing their job, watching air traffic when a pilot from a commercial airline calls them and breaks into the air traffic controllers conversations with other flights because they had one landing and one taking off. At that moment, the captain breaks in and says, "What's that thing at the end of the runway?" All right. End quote.
Now, this is a very detailed report, but I'm going to just get to the main points here. Because of the UFO's brilliant glow, Allora, the flight controller, could not tell whether it had actually touched down or was hovering just above the runway. Then as everybody is looking at it and it was bright, it rose up off of the runway about 30 feet off of the ground and hovered there briefly and then it just took off rapidly accelerating to the northeast and disappearing. This is an official Argentine military report.
Right after that, in 1965, between the months of June and July, a succession of UFO incidents occur in the Antarctic region. Some of them producing electromagnetic disturbances and witnessed by personnel from the British, Chilean, and Argentine bases in the area of Antarctica. The phenomenon on July 3rd at Deception Island Naval Station generates the second official acknowledgement from the Argentine military.
Then in 1973 on November 2nd, six members of the back at Espora Naval Air Base, by the way, close to Bajia Blanca, witnesses uh observe the maneuvers of a UFO immediately producing the third official report from the Argentine military.
Then in 1978, Cristina, on the evening of February 4th at La Flora Dam in San Louis, six persons report the presence of a UFO and the descent of an occupant from within, leaving ground marks. The police precinct of St. Lewis through its chief, Lieutenant Colonel Raul Benjamin Lopez issues a document which constitutes the fourth official acknowledgement from the Argentine military. But I'm not done.
1978 towards midnight on July 12th, a low a low-level UFO sighting causes a commotion in the Estession Ramblan region located between the limits of San Juan and Mendoza. It was witnessed by police officers and the town. The San Juan police chief, Colonel Guiermo Vulpares the fifth fifth official military report from the Argentine military. All right. Now, I've got one more. I've got one more.
In 1982, in the evening of August 13th, a UFO causes a disturbance in the town of Landre, Ketamara, and his fly and its flyover, produces strong winds, and starts a conflration. A police patrolman on duty says he saw an intruder. The provincial police emits the and creates the sixth official document. All right, I I I'm not done. I'm not done. I actually have one more.
- This the last one. the appearance of a nighttime UFO and the discovery of a gigantic indentation on El Pereo Hill in Cordoba on January 9th prompts the city's municipal authorities to issue the seventh and final official acknowledgement from the Argentinian military's role in UFO research. There you go. Argentina. Yeah, you're right. They deserve a full show, don't they?
Cristina Gomez: You absolutely slaughtered it. Just bam, bam, bam, bam. One case after another, bringing in the dates, bringing in the names. The pronunciation was pretty good. Good job. No, it was trailer park. I No, I thought it was great. I thought it was pretty good. Uh, no, absolutely killed it. You took all my notes and you ran with it. I Here's the thing, though. the these are official reports from a government's military in this case Argentina right and something that that and this goes back a long ways and it just shows you how much we have fallen short here in the United States and I know you and I were talking about this earlier we've got uh on the calendar what appears to be another UFO hearing in Congress uh for September 9th and It just seems to me, Cristina, we're just trying to catch up to what all of our neighbors have been doing for for decades now on this subject. All of the countries around us seem to have always taken this very very serious. Uh they've listened to their military. They've listened uh to their citizens. Um uh they've uh done follow-up investigations in a lot of cases um uh routed the military to these locations and uh to to cover this and to protect the citizens. And our military and our government has done the exact opposite until now. And we're still not there, are we?
No, we are not there yet. And it just seems that South America as a whole has been very far ahead with this conversation. both on a civilian level and on a military level. They did create for instance Uruguay did create their they were the first country to create their UFO office a public one in South America in particular in the late 70s early 80s and then other countries followed suit while the US didn't create their public one until many many years later. And we're looking at Argentina and we're hearing these stories of military officials addressing this. they actually get their full names which is a constant in uh many cases in South America. In Spain as well compared to the US we get anonymous we get a a alias name or just their first name or just their last name but in this case for Argentina and again other countries in South America you get the full whopping name first middle last last name their mom's last name their dad's last name maybe their grandparents and so on. So, it just goes to show that the conversation is very different there. It's taken a lot more seriously and we in the US, we need to follow suit because we're still behind even though we're talking about it in a more grand scale. In a more open way.
Jimmy Church: Yeah. In a more open way. Yes. We're still not at the same level like you had mentioned. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And you know, today it's video, it's uh video capture, it's cell phones and and so forth and and things can get manipulated. But if you go back and you look at some of the film footage and specifically one one case comes to mind and I to this day it just holds up and that's the film footage that was shot the movie the film over Catalina Island here in Southern California and you go back and just watch that's film and just go and look at that. It's not a bird. It's not a blimp. It's not a plane. It's uh it is what it is, but it's captured on film. And that's totally different. And so when we go back and we look at these historical cases, I I say this over and over again with you, Christine, I think it's so important to go back before there were things like SpaceX launches, you know, two times a week, you know, lighting up the sky with something strange. And so there's that and people not understanding what they're seeing and then shooting the videos that go back historically and look at the record there. it when only certain things were in the sky, right? Before jets, when every planes had propellers, it was a different time. What was being seen in the skies? Uh I just find it very very interesting. And that's why these cases like uh to describe a burnished metal lentric uh uh uh saucershaped object on the runway. You know, let's let's go back and take a look at this. Well, the military in Argentina took it very very serious.
Do we have time for one more or are we going to get out?
Cristina Gomez: No, we we can do one more. But before we do that, that's why it's so important to cover these more historical cases. why we do this show, Mysteries with a History. It's because it sets a foundation and it's a bit more difficult to debunk these much older cases when technology was very different, CGI wasn't a thing, Photoshop was still in its very primitive era, if anything. Actually, we didn't get that until much later compared to present day where everything is very, very easily debunked. We have to cover these old cases to get an understanding as to what's happening right now.
Jimmy Church: Yeah. And who was who was just on? Joe Rogan. Was it Tulsa Gabbard? Uh Luna. Oh, Luna. Luna. Yeah, Luna was on. And um elected officials, doesn't matter about gender, they all look the same to me. I don't know their names. But anyway, when she said, "Look, you know, I I can't I I I I've seen images of stuff that I know are not made on this earth, you So, so what what does that tell you? What is she looking at? Is it new? Is it old? What's what's the story behind the images? You have to have that, right? You have to have the backstory. Where it was taken, what time it was taken, when it was taken, and what is it that she's trying to get to? And then she said one other point that you and I are just talking about. She said, "I would argue that these sightings go back historically all the way back to the time of Jesus." You know, and and she's right. When you go back deep in, you go back before 1903, before the Wright brothers, and if you go back before the first hot air balloons in France in 1790. All right. You get before that. What's in the sky, Cristina? What's in the sky? Clouds. Birds.
Cristina Gomez: Yeah, clouds. Birds. Right. Right. That's it.
Jimmy Church: Right. I I don't think bumblebees or butterflies are going to be mistaken for giant crap. So, what else is in the skies besides birds, right? And and we know what a bird is. So if you see something in the sky and you write down in the historical record that you saw a shiny metal shield right flying through the sky, what is it that they were seeing? And I I think the historical record when you get back before technology is some of the most important and compelling stuff that we can go back and research and and and contemplate and consider and develop a theory on. I think that is very very important and Luna made that case on Rogan and I agree with her. I agree with her 100%. You can go back into the historic how many times have you and I on this very program have talked about historical cases in the 1600s, the 1500s, the 1400s, in the year 100 in 400 BC. How many times have we done this? I remember you and I did a show and you can help me out on this, but we tracked a sighting from the coast of France through across southern Europe through the Alps and down into Italy on the same day right in I think that was the year 1500 where you have the the dates are there locked in and they are seeing something fly across the sky. And I can tell you that from the description of it, it wasn't a meteor. The thing landed, right? Well, let's take a look at that. What is it that they were seeing? You know, I just find this stuff fascinating.
Like this next case. Let's get this in and out. Uh we're out of time, everybody, so we'll do this really fast. This is the 1963 Trackus case. um happened on Monday, October 31st. Halloween dun Halloween 1963. Wow. This is when I was born. This was on my birthday. This is interesting. Two sisters, Argentina, 28, and Yoli, 21, were visiting their parents at their parents' ranch with their children. All right. Now, 900 p.m. that night, Dora Guzman. Dora was uh a a housekeeper for them. She was 15 years old. She lived in the back of the house, but she suddenly starts freaking out, running back in and out of the house, stating that she could see lights on the railroad embankment about 200 yards in front of the ranch. So, it's about 600 feet away. So, what do they do? What do the girls do? They go to it.
Cristina Gomez: They do. Yeah. They do what I wouldn't do in the dark. They go out to get a better look. Cristina. Yeah, that's nuts.
Jimmy Church: And And what do they find? Well, it kind of goes back to Dianio. They suddenly are enveloped in light, right? And they're bathed in this light. Um, they're trying to Yep. They're trying to see what's going on. They can't make sense of anything. These are these are young women, right? Um, now I'm going to do the quick version of this because it's a pretty complex uh encounter, but in an instant they noticed as as they describe it, a bunch of vehicles in a row with turrets like tanks, right? Turrets on the top and large rivets on the surface. Very interesting description. um especially coming from young women, they they don't necessarily understand uh what they're looking at like this. And they were unable to tell if the objects were suspended over the ground just like the Air Force reports that we did earlier or resting upon it. But they appeared there was a bunch of these in a row to have six windows on each with light coming out of them. So, what did they do? They did what I do. They ran back to the house and locked the doors, right? Smart move. You know, they were freaked out. And so, they locked themselves in the house. Mom and dad wake up. Uh, everybody else wakes up. I think some prayers started to to happen, right? And and all of this because nobody knew what was going on. And but they could see this is just 600 feet in front of the house. They see a long line of vehicles floating above the ground. After 40 minutes elapsed, uh, the objects started to move forward through above the ground and then vanish toward the Sierra Medus mountains that were about 10 miles away. There you go. That's a great case right there.
Cristina Gomez: It is there. It's a lot there's a lot more to it. Uh there were other witnesses, other farmers actually saw this as well. Um which adds credibility to the story and we've heard similar incidents um to this one. But to hear these young women see this, to run to it, to mention that they saw not only a craft but a green light that almost looks solid like a laser versus this kind of haze that we usually see with lights um is also very strange that we don't hear too often. But with the cases in Argentina, lights seem to play a really big role in these cases.
Right before we end today's show, got to give a shout out to Tina. Happy birthday. It is just that's so awesome. Happy birthday. Thank you so much for being here, for being one of our amazing mods for how many years now? Like a really, really long time. So, just a big happy birthday. Thank you, Tina. And thank you, Jimmy, for being on the show today. Who do you have on Fade to Black tonight?
Jimmy Church: Man, I got a big one. I mean, let's hear it. Every every show this week has been ginormous. And how do we top that? Well, we top it tonight because we have Trevor Graci on the show and we are covering his team and the SARS project and what they are doing underneath Giza. Um, they broke the story, he broke the story, and we all know how viral this has gone and the other stuff that has been uh revealed. Well, tonight Trevor Graci, and I've been trying to get Trevor on the show for years, and he's camera shy. He's a good dude. He's a really good dude. He's like, "Man, I I just can't do it, man. Just let me make my films. Just let me do my research. Let me do my thing." Well, he's out there all over Giza filming and doing his stuff over the years and I kept asking him to come on the show and then what happens? Boom. SARS happens and now he doesn't have a choice. He's coming on Fade to Block and uh so we'll see uh how camera shy he is tonight. But it's a it's a really really big show. So we're going to go through all of that. What is SARS? Um how does it work? What is it that they are finding in addition to uh the stuff that has already been released? What could it be? All of that tonight with the one and only Trevor Graci. I'm paid to block. It's going to be huge show. So, I'll see everybody tonight. Cristina, always great being here with you. Another great show on Mysteries with the History. Thank you so much.
Cristina Gomez: Thank you, Jimmy. If you enjoyed the show, hit that like button right down below and subscribe if you haven't already as I do daily UFO news updates at 10:00 a.m. PST. So, make sure to also hit that notification bell to not miss anything that is going on right here on this channel because right now it just seems that UFOs are on everyone's mind both in the political world uh in an international scale as well and we just simply can't stop talking about it. So, if you're interested in UFO news and this is the channel for you. I also do write articles for all of the shows where I embed them with all the sources that I use for them and you can find that on my website at ufnews.co. Co. That link is in the description box below along with being a pinned comment. I want to say thank you to everyone catching the live show today, everyone that liked it, all of the super chats. You guys are amazing. Thank you so much, Tina. Another big happy birthday. Just I just think you're so cool. And that is it for today. I will see you next time. Be safe and remember, keep your eyes on the skies.
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