Following that he became a plumber for some of the wealthiest people in the world back on Long Island. In 2010 Eric took a contract to work at the South Pole Station for a year as both a firefighter and plumber. Eric's story gained significant attention with appearances on the Shawn Ryan Show, Redacted, and the PBD Podcast. The Classics Remastered series of shows have been edited to remove ad breaks, and have had audio quality remastered for better quality listening.
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Eric, welcome to Shifting the Paradigm. How are you today? >> I am doing fantastic, Christina. Thank you so much for having me on your show today. >> I'm pretty excited for those that may not be familiar with your work or research. What do you want the audience to take away from today's interview? >> Oh, boy, that's a very interesting and loaded question, but I will get right to the point. (00:34) I want the audience to understand that what is going on down in Antarctica and the South Pole station specifically is not what they're being told. There is very high technology, which is contemporary rarely being referred to as directed energy weapons systems, stuff that we see in the news that the ramifications of the application of these weapons is referred to as Havana syndrome and everybody's seeing that in the news as of late. (01:13) But this is the weapons platform that provides those symptoms. When the government is talking about their employees suffering from Havana syndrome, it analogues to them saying that their employees are suffering from bullet wounds. So they're discussing the problem, or I should say the symptom, but not the delivery mechanism. (01:35) So what I'm discussing with the world is the delivery mechanism that Havana syndrome is a directed energy weapons result. So the government is talking about Havana syndrome and I'm talking about the delivery mechanism. Where does Havana syndrome come from is not something the government wants to talk about. (01:58) But there's a new level of warfare going on on this planet. That's what people need to learn about. And we're going to get a little bit more into that, a little bit later, but first is kind of start off with your background. You grew up in Leventon Town, Long Island, New York and this town was specifically built in mind for post-World War II veterans back in the late 40s into the 50s and you were born in the 70s. (02:28) So how did growing up around a town filled with war veterans shape your world view as a child? Well I guess it probably had more to do with a guiding hand. It appears that Leventon Long Island being the first suburb of the United States of America. Like you said for post-World War II veterans, it appears that there were other programs that just continued in this environment and we're learning about things nowadays, notice the Stargate program, which was a remote viewing program and things like this were being (03:04) applied to elementary school level children like myself back in the late 70s, early 80s for myself and then other generations both foreign aft of when I was involved with such programs. Can you explain what the Stargate program is and what they did to you in order for you to come up with the conclusion that you were a part of the program as a child? Absolutely, Christine. (03:33) The Stargate program was a function of the CIA and they started to want to study consciousness and what that really meant and they were working off of a book by a gentleman named Eatsok Ben Tog. His book was called Stalking the Wild Pendulum on the Mechanics of Consciousness and it was this book as well as the practices of the Monroe Institute which was started by Robert Monroe and it was the CIA's basis for consciousness studies that the Stargate program got into remote viewing and they were working with both adults and children both knowing and unknowingly (04:17) to basically, I guess, just working in the science of, in time travel technically. I mean because they were getting out of body is one way of putting it that the ability for a person to have information is normally understood to come from somewhere but what the CIA was learning in the Stargate program is that it was possible for somebody to know something without really having a reason to know it. (04:47) If they didn't have any direct experience in their life, if they weren't taught anything about a topic, they could still definitively be right on something and this was blowing the minds of the folks over at the CIA when they were being presented. The expertise of folks like Ingo Swann and the remote viewers from the time period that the CIA was tapping to start these training programs, the paradigm was shifting back then that consciousness had a tangible value and the CIA didn't really care so much to really (05:22) understand consciousness as they cared a lot on how to use it up until the point where some people would say that they were abusing it. Going into a little bit more depth with your childhood experience, you are enrolled in a Catholic school from kindergarten till about the eighth grade where different experiments took place such as learning to remote view in a library. (05:51) Can you walk us through some of the most memorable tasks that you endured? I can but it is still kind of big. I can give you a general overview of what the library remote view experiences was like. More or less they would first draw us out from the classroom and they would pump our egos as children. They would tell us, you know, you're so smart, you're so smart, you're so smart, they really wanted us to feel exceptional and we absolutely did. (06:19) Our egos were solidly boosted. We thought we were something special. When we got to the library, basically the first thing that they did is that they administered eye drops to us and they would caution us, you know, to tilt our head back, they would put a tissue by the corner of our eye and warn us to stay still so that it wouldn't get on our uniforms and stain our uniforms. (06:41) Apparently it was a staining solution and we certainly knew in the strict regiment to Catholic school that we were in that staining our uniforms was verbok and then you get in trouble. So, I was basically listening to my father and this was news to him again, no idea that we were being administered eye drops in the library when I was a child. (07:00) So this was unbeknownst to him and unapproved. So that is going on behind closed doors, folks pay close attention to that aspect of reality. But with that being said, they would give us eye drops and then proceed to run us through what I now know is the motions of the Monroe Institute Remote Viewing Protocols. (07:25) When I was a child, they were not being forth with in our direction and they didn't tell us exactly what we were up to so it seemed very bizarre the activity. But they were going through the motions of the removing process and they were working us as remote viewers. Have us do the the integrand basically which was just squiggly line on the paper and then utilizing that line as a tool and being guided, we had handlers at the table and they would ask us questions and write down our answers and from our perspective they seemed very benign (08:06) but that is how these remote viewing teams work oftentimes. So I didn't necessarily know what they were asking me questions about. They could say something like, do you see trees or mountains and out answer the question I see trees. I wouldn't know why they were asking me the question but it mattered to them. (08:30) And apparently my ability to see and answer those questions had some level of accuracy because they continued to bring me in there and utilize me for these remote viewing programs. And was it all the students in the school that went through these tests or was it only a select few? For my understanding it was a select few that was being treated the way that I was in the library. (08:56) I do not want to discount the processing of children in this equation though I believe that I was processed as a child in a peculiar way. I believe that our children are going through a grinder of process that the other children that weren't in the library for the process that I was going through were probably being processed in some other capacity because their standardized tests said that they were capable of doing some other thing. (09:24) I think the people of the world need to know that our children are being not handled in a way that they would approve of when they let them go to school every day. You said that you spoke to your father not too long ago about this. It must have been way after you got out of school and all of this. And his expression to my understanding was it was kind of like shocked but also stating this is not what I wanted for my child. (09:49) Is there anything else that you spoke about with your father in relation to these experiments? Oh, absolutely. There were times in this same school that we were removed from the premises for what we were told were retreats which are supposed to be wholly endeavors and that was the pretense. And it turned out we were being brought to a different site on Long Island that has since been knocked down. (10:27) The property was previously called Ineshvada which is Galic and that I believe was Galic for Long Island and at the time the house was built it was the fourth largest house in the United States of America built by the Brady family and they were very connected with the Jesuits and the Jesuits are very connected with child abuse. And we used to get bust to this Ineshvada property on Long Island under the pretense of it being a wholly retreat. (10:51) And the vast majority of children that were being bust to this property were probably getting some cover story of it being some prayers and stuff for the day. But a certain portion of us were being siphoned off from the herd of children there for the day and we were brought to different quarters and what we were involved with what is now referred to as satanic ritual abuse and I was taken with boys from my school and we were met in areas with girls from other schools and we were made to perform in front of rooms of adults. (11:28) And for those that have gone through a type of trauma in their life such as this one, what advice do you have for them to overcome it? Well the truth, it's okay, it's all right. Pretty much this has almost happened to almost everybody out there but the problem is is that we have these mechanisms to push this stuff in the backs of our minds. (11:55) This is how Mother Nature protects children. It's very natural. So what people need to do is just start to get very comfortable with the nature of who they are. And if things happen to you that were odd when you were a kid just communicate them. So it's not that hard actually. You'll find that there's a lot of folks out there that weren't particularly treated well as children and the best thing that we can do as aspiring adults is to do the right things for the kids out there and break this chain. (12:28) There's a lot of stuff going on on this planet that's just not right and it impacts the kids negatively. It does and you said to tell the truth, speak the truth to whom? To everybody that you need. This is not a conversation that anybody should be ashamed of. This is stuff that should be conversational and topical. (12:49) Learning how to help the kids for the benefit of the kids on any given day is a great conversation for anybody in humanity. So if we can't discuss the things that are currently detrimental to children or have been systemically detrimental to children, you know, I mean, what kind of human beings are we? It goes so deep into our DNA and it flows through our blood to always take care of our young and for those that don't, it really does shock me. (13:21) Well you ended up using all of these childhood experiences as your strength. How have your experiences influenced your research today? My experiences I guess I would say have influenced my research in this so far is that I know they're so original to me. So I feel obligated to express them that if I feel if not me, then who? You know, the stuff that I've seen has been so odd and off the wall that if I don't communicate my experiences to folks, I really, I honestly feel the world is going to be in harm's way. (14:03) I've seen too much danger and precarious circumstances. People talk about nowadays like black hats and white hats and stuff like that. And I guess I got to seriously just throw the white hat on and start screaming from the hills that I've seen stuff that the bad people are up to, you know, this is my anardic experience in South Pole. (14:22) I'm trying to let folks know that there's bad stuff out there beyond their comprehension currently. So my experiences motivate me to share the truth because I'm aware of a truth that's not being told. You just mentioned black hats and white hats. What does that mean? That's, I guess, contemporary terminology with all of the factions that are battling right now. (14:49) You know, I know a lot of folks think that it's as simple as Democrat and Republican but boy, I wish it was that simple. There's a lot of stuff going on. There's good people in one side, there's good people in the other side, there's bad people both ways, there's people all over the place. (15:03) So the simple terminology, I think, for the baseline, we the people is that every faction has good people in bad in it and the black hats represent bad people and the white hats represent hopefully good people. And there's an idea that the white hats need to, I guess, in a way infiltrate some of the more nefarious aspects of black hat tree so that we can figure out what's going on and mitigate those problems. (15:35) So that's kind of where I look at my experiences at the South Pole Station. Certainly there's a fistful of people that have gone down there but nobody's really come out of there with the documentation that I have and the statements that I have. And to me, that's just a testament to everybody else seems to just be very well compartmentalized. (15:58) So let's get into your experience with Antarctica. It's kind of a funny story getting into it. So in 2010, you were having difficulty finding work in New York as a plumber. So you began to look outside of the area. And there was one application that was addressed to be in Colorado and turned south. (16:16) That was just the hiring office. But the actual job was in Antarctica. I mean, that's a rather crucial detail that they seem to deliberately leave out. So absolutely. I mean, I know that was insane. When you found out there was vacancy in Antarctica, what made you want to go? That's a very big difference compared to Colorado. (16:44) You could have applied for any other job in your area. So why did you decide to go to the South Pole? The easy answer is just that I never wanted to go to the South Pole. There were literally no other jobs at the time. There was only two applications in the whole country that I applied to. There was no one hiring. (17:05) That was what the current administration had done to the economy at the time. And so I got notification from the hiring facility in Colorado that the position was actually in Antarctica. And I instantaneously was like, I don't want anything to do with that. And I went to the other position that I applied to. (17:27) And I tried pushing harder in that direction to get that job. And it didn't pan out. And obviously long story short, I wound up spending a year at the South Pole Station, not because I had a desire to, but it was because it was the only corporation on the face of the earth at the time that was willing to cut me a check. (17:48) So as soon as you got accepted, what was going through your mind during that moment, or even when you were getting on the plane to your new home? What were you feeling? What were you thinking? It was wild. For starters, I mean, being on Long Island in New York in the summertime trying to plan to get winter stuff for South Pole was rather challenging. (18:12) But beyond that, when I started getting into the flights and the training, I mean, they first brought us from, I went from New York to Colorado to pick up on some training modules and things like that before they transitioned us further down South. It was wild. They were sending us with a whole bunch of people transit in kind of in the same direction. (18:31) There was other people from the United States and Arctic program appropriately titled. So all of us, other program folks were headed down South. We went to LAX, then we went to Auckland, New Zealand, and then we got to Christchurch, New Zealand, which was amazing. Christchurch, New Zealand is beautiful. And we got hung up there for a few days before we went further south. (18:54) Oh my goodness. Eric, there's a break coming. We'll be right back. Welcome back to "Shifting the Paradigm." Whitney is Eric Hacker. On your website, you shared the UAP preliminary report that was released in June of last year. What were your thoughts on the UAP hearing that happened on May 17th in comparison to the report released last year? They continued, "Farse. (19:25) " No truth is going to come from any direction associated to the United States federal government. It is not their job to tell you the truth. They've been lying to you for decades. They will continue to lie to you. That's what's going on. There's all kinds of supposed whistleblowers coming out of the direction of the U.S. (19:47) federal government. Oddly enough, these supposed whistleblowers used to be paid to lie to you. Now we're being told they're being unpaid to tell you the truth. Boy, what a bunch of hierarchy that is. During your one year stay in Antarctica, you saw some kind of fireball in the sky. What happened? That's a great question, Kristina. (20:18) I didn't know 100% at first, but I've learned correctly since. I was walking back doing my rounds. I have to go to all these different outbuildings and check on things as part of my daily routine. I was walking back to the elevated station from what we call the dark sector, which is where there's a bunch of science telescopes and things like that that I was checking on. (20:41) The weather can be sometimes when you're walking around is that there can be snow blowing up from the ground up until just about eyeball high top of your head. As I was walking back towards the elevated station, the weather conditions were that way. I was trying to just lift my gaze up a little bit to see if maybe I can see over the snow to get a glimpse of the elevated station to see how much further I had to walk. (21:12) As I had lifted my head out of this fuzz of the snow blowing by looking now into the clear sky from my left, which at the time was what we would call grid north, which is the direction that the elevated station faces. From grid north, I was seeing this giant flaming fireball zipped across the sky at the south pole over the elevated station. (21:42) I could see like these craggly marks on it. I could see the flames. I could see there was a trail behind it. There was pretty much a flame, which I would say like almost like one third of the smoke trail and then the rest of the two thirds was smoky. But this whole thing shot across the sky from my far left all the way to my far right, which is unobstructed view. (22:06) It's just flat ice there at the south pole and I can't even begin to imagine the distance from horizon to horizon how fast this object went and it went pin straight without deviation. It didn't go from up to down. It went from a height that was relatively low altitude straight across my view and all the way out to the horizon. (22:28) At the time in my brain, I was thinking, wow, that's insane. That was like a freaking planet sized meteor or something that just ripped through the atmosphere. Since then, I've learned that what I saw is a type of UFO on the list of types of UFOs. I didn't know that there was a flaming ball type UFO at the time that I witnessed it. (22:58) My understanding of UFOs at the time was like a flat disc with a glass dome on the top and flashy lights and two green guys waving at you. My brain wasn't really at that idea that this is a known UFO shape. I was thinking of it as just the coolest largest meteor that could possibly, I guess, somehow make it through the atmosphere completely intact. (23:27) You touched on the environment of Antarctica. What was it like to step foot on the icy land for the first time? Interesting. The first time I stepped on the ice at the South Pole Station, we had just dropped in a C-130 Hercules. They had opened the rear door, dumped all of our gear off the back while we were in motion. (23:55) It was a pretty wild landing. All these air force pellets were just launching out the back of the plane as we were on the ski way. So that was pretty uncommon. We didn't even know we were on the ground yet at the time we had such a soft landing. But then upon exiting the herc, this was actually an event for me. (24:14) There's an airman at the Portwatch door. And as we're getting let out, the propellers for the plane are still at idle speed, which is enough to make you, you know, mince me. But as you walk out the door, the airman turns to me and he goes, "Make a right." Which at the time I found rather insulting because it was like, "Did you think that I was going to walk into the propeller?" So that was my first step into Antarctica. (24:48) As I felt slightly insulted that the airman thought that I was dumb enough to walk into the props. So he felt obligated to tell me to make a right. The reason why I ask about the environment is from an outsider's perspective. It's pretty brutal. And then we had your own, practically, what you would consider a UFO sighting. (25:11) So there are those that believe that Antarctica has their own alien bases and a lot of secrets. What are your thoughts on that? I agree 100% actually. I don't doubt that all possibility exists always. I think Antarctica has a rich history of nefarious activities and factions involved. I want all kinds of studies and attention to be put down onto the seventh continent. (25:45) I think it's a very important conversation piece that not enough people are talking about. I think there's a lot of misinformation. I think there's a lot of disinformation. But I think we need to get to the facts of the matter. I think there's a lot going on down there. I think that Admiral Bird went down there and learned a lot. (26:04) I think that we had operation deep freeze going on for quite some time. I have worked with quite a few folks myself, one of which is John Warner IV. He's the son of John Warner III, former senator of Virginia. He passed away this past year. But before passing away, he let his son know that in his previous role as secretary of the Navy, which put him in charge of operation deep freeze down in Antarctica, that there was a secret submarine base and that the submarines were down there under the ice. (26:44) This is the United States Navy. This is the former secretary of the Navy. And when his son asked him what these submarines were doing down there, his father stated space operations. So this is a big deal that a lot of folks, you know, there is a lot going on with the UFO and the UAP community. But the reality is is that only the government can temporarily is making this a new conversation because they have been forced to stop lying about it. (27:21) But now that they are showing up to the table, they are showing up behind everybody else in the conversation because they are not being forth with. The only thing that's changed in the disclosure community because of the government is that the doors have been left open and unlocked. Everybody is waiting for the government to speak truth and they are never going to. (27:45) They simply just left the doors unlocked for the rest of the truth speakers to come through because the other people don't have liability. The government does. The government can't speak the truth. They are too liable. Where can people get the information to know more about Antarctica? Are they able to decipher the truth from the fiction? They should start with people who have direct first hand experience would be my understanding. (28:13) I mean, why would you listen to somebody tell a story about something that they've never experienced when you have the option to choose somebody who has had the experience? I find that wildly interesting. I mean, myself, I spent a year at the South Pole Station. I see a lot of people talking about what's going on in Antarctica. (28:34) And I find it very interesting because to me, it's my home. It's my family. I've been there. And I think Christina, you would find it really funny if people started talking about your home and your family if they've never been in your house. A little bit earlier, you mentioned Admiral Burr. (28:57) And he's pretty important in the history of Antarctica. Tell us about him. Well, Admiral Burr basically did some of the best first reconnaissance down in Antarctica and South Pole, especially by his flyovers and the such. And a lot of his crew, for example, there was a gentleman by the name of Boyd Berkner, who went on to continue a lot of the peculiar science that was going on in Antarctica. (29:27) And Lloyd Berkner went on over to Brookhaven National Labs. And that situation seems to be very CIA-connected. So it seems that Admiral Burr discovered something very important when he went down there. He went down as the leader. So now Burr was a researcher at this point. He was not an Admiral by US Navy Commission. (29:55) He was a civilian researcher at this point who was put to task of being in charge of a military fleet again under the false pretenses of it being research. Apparently when Burr's expedition went down to Antarctica, they wound up engaging with some unfriendlys, getting their fleet decimated, and then their mission classified. (30:20) So when they came back, nobody was really allowed to talk about what occurred, but they came back with a fraction of the fleet that they left with. Can you go into a little more detail on that? How did their craft get fractured? You got it. So there's a researcher by the name of Brad Olson, who I've met at some conferences, and he covers the topic very well if people want to get more facts because I'm a horrible teacher. (30:49) I'm a better student. But Brad Olson is a greater orator on the topic. But effectively when the American faction went down to Antarctica, they encountered unfriendlys, which are believed to have been a Nazi faction that has the technology of anti-gravity available to them at that time. And that Burr's fleet was actually, like they said, some of the ships were cut into by the technology that they came across. (31:24) So it was really that they were outgunned, outmatched, and just it didn't do well for them. They got decimated. Yeah, and Antarctica has a really fascinating history, a lot of very interesting stories, but also the landscape is pretty interesting. During your time there, did you ever visit the bloodfalls? No, I did not. (31:48) I did not spend much time on the cost. I've seen videos of that and it looks very cool, but my time, I spent 366 days straight in Antarctica with, I would say, 12 hours ish on the front and back end. I spent on the coast at McMurdo base, but the rest of it I spent at South Pole proper. So you actually answered my next question about McMurdo. (32:17) For those that aren't familiar with this landscape, why is it so fascinating? It is magnificent decillation was the term used in the lunar program I forget by which astronaut. But I would say that South Pole pretty much is the exact same thing. There's nothing there. And it is in that that it's magnificent. (32:48) There's nothing on the ground. It is just flat ice. There's not a peep. There's not a sound. If there's no wind on a cold day in the winter, when there's no wind, I could walk from building to building. And if I stop, there is no noise. And I could hear my blood circulating in my body. That's how quiet it was around you. (33:12) The amount of silence about you, there's nothing else to hear. I mean, your body, it's amazing. It's an amazing experience at the South Pole to have a different understanding of yourself, your body, everything about you. These are the odd things that you learn. So yes, walking three quarters of a mile from one building to another in the darkness of winter at the South Pole on a day with no wind, it is so quiet. (33:42) You hear your blood circulating. Your heartbeat is loud in you. There's nothing else. It is sensory deprivation beyond one's comprehension. So when you first moved there, how did that make you feel? Just not really being able to hear anything. That came later on in the winter time. I was first there in the summer time. (34:09) It was very noisy in the summertime. The station was flush with activity. We had C-130 Hercules coming and going constantly. And even if they weren't coming and going, they were parked and they were idling. The airmen were terrified of turning the planes off and getting stuck there so they didn't. (34:30) The Jamesway's tents that we slept in in the summer season were right next to the ski way that I had gotten so acclimated to having a flight line of airplanes idling next to me when I was sleeping that when the winter season switched and I got moved to the elevated station, I couldn't sleep because it was so quiet in there. (34:52) I was begging to have a plane parked near me again. In some cases that can kind of play with your sanity. And I don't think people realize that. What about for yourself? Did you realize anything about yourself that you didn't or what did you learn during your stay? Christina, doing a year at the South Pole Station is a challenge of sanity. (35:20) There's no question to be asked on that. They gave us psychological evaluations before, during, after. It is a taxing environment physically and mentally, a thousand percent. They were very challenging mental moments for me there when I was there approximately the six month mark. I was having difficulties remembering things from off the ice. (35:48) It was very challenging. I was thinking in my head that the six months that I had been there was already feeling like forever. And if six months feels like forever and I have six months to go, it was like, whoa, I have forever to go, eh? So then my next question would be, what helped you persevere when you were there? Personal interactions and human contact, so to say, being human. (36:20) The sensory deprivation like I mentioned before is off the walls. There's nothing going on. Take every joy that you have in life right now, put it on a list and remove it in that South Pole. What made us get by was creativity and the desire to. We were trained in certain psychological understandings of morale prior to departing. (36:49) We were trained to pay attention to each other, to care for each other in a more formal way. Then most people are accustomed to because it was both a job and a way of life. And we understood that once those planes left and there was only 49 souls left at South Pole Station to fend for each other, that's it. (37:14) Whether you like these people or not, you're going to figure it out and you're going to just care for each other and make this happen. So there was a lot to be said for the mentality of it and just the desire. So we would make events. We would host parties. You would just take it upon yourself to say, hey, this Friday night, this is going to be a dance party in the TV lounge instead of regular activities and you put up posters and you make things happen and people just took it upon themselves to make it a community. (37:50) It's really community building stuff and having a desire to care about your neighbor. And before you're arrival there or during, did you have to go through any type of training like psychological training or do you think that your childhood experiences of being a part of the Stargate program somewhat prepared you for your one year? I think there's a lot to be said for the programs that I was involved with as a child that had led me in this direction for sure. (38:23) I feel kind of pre-selected in a way. But with that being said, there was also a fistful of other training. We were given first responder medical training. I was sent to a firefighter school to learn how to do industrial firefighting because I took that role on at the station as well. I was a, every time the fire alarms went off, I was the first person to figure out what was going on in full SCBA and stuff like that as well. (38:49) So besides plumbing, I was a firefighter there. I also had medical response training that we had to go through and then we also as a crew were given like psychological, malrow boosting training. We were given as well to pay attention to where people's brains were at and how they were feeling. Again, it's an extremely taxing environment. (39:13) It's fatiguing. It's challenging. We were taught how to eat better. I mean, we had to learn how to consume calories at a rate that we were unfamiliar with the environment. We were eating somewhere between probably easily 12 to 15,000 calories a day while losing weight. And we had to challenge ourselves to consume mass amounts of as we looked at it at that place was fuel. (39:44) I mean, food was fuel. If I was going to go out in the elements, which could be down to minus 90 degrees ambient, at that point, my body is trying to fire its furnace to keep me warm and it's going to do that, but it's going to start consuming fuel, which is either going to be in my stomach or my body. (40:04) So people have stored fat. Normally, don't ever have to really do it. And that's why we have all these obese people around, but I assure you, if you spend a winter at South Pole Station, you're going to lose weight because the body is going to fuel that fire. And if you didn't ingest the food that morning, it's just going to start sucking it right out of you. (40:23) Of course, that makes a perfect sense. The deep conversation of the Perry-Rese map ever come up with those on the base. That was not on my radar at the time, unfortunately. The complete mystery of Antarctica didn't really cross my mind until I had gotten off of the ice, but I do find the Perry-Rese map extremely important in the Antarctic conversation. (40:55) So how did you end up hearing about it? The Perry-Rese map I found out about afterwards in my studies because I wanted to learn what really is going on with this continent and how long have we been dealing with it. I've certainly learned that the history of this planet has been really hidden from us. (41:18) And the Perry-Rese map is a good example. And in Antarctica, in general, is a fantastic example of how we've all been deeply diluted to the history of this planet. The Perry-Rese map is a great example of people new stuff before that we haven't been told right now. Exactly. And for those that are not familiar with this map, can you briefly explain the content in it or how it was created? I don't know so much how it was created per se, but the content in it is that of the Antarctic continent, the land mass without the ice on it, which is interesting in a couple of ways. (42:01) One, obviously because Admiral Perry-Rese was able to ascertain this and have it, but the other consideration is that a lot of folks don't want to discuss is how fast the glaciers are creed. How fast do they grow? I mean, a lot of the conversation we have contemporarily about, you know, climate change and global warming and all that stuff, which don't get me wrong, climbs do change. (42:25) That's the fact of life because they haven't stayed the same forever, so they do change. But we've oftentimes discussed how fast glaciers reach tree. Fair question. But when people bring that up, I ask them, do they know how fast glaciers grow? Because that seems to be really left out of the conversation. (42:45) And a lot of people have no idea how fast glaciers grow. So that's another conversation piece for the Perry-Rese map. Is it profound that the Admiral was getting information that was so old because it predated when the ice was there of our understanding of the rate that ice grows and glaciers or is the question that he saw then because what people are being told nowadays is why about how fast the ice can grow? Yeah, that's definitely not a conversation that people speak about. (43:22) How fast do glaciers grow? That's a great point. Eric, there is another great-looking hand-tight will be right back. Eric, it wasn't until you moved to Alaska. Did you really start putting the pieces together of your past life experiences and delve deep into your research where you post on your website and your YouTube channel at decipher. (43:49) tv? Can you tell us about decipher TV? Absolutely, deciphering.tv is my best effort trying to get the truth out there without all the censorship. As we know, there's all kinds of platforms that people have to deal with, typically, to get the information out there and that certainly gets to the most people the fastest, but unfortunately there's censorship. (44:13) So deciphering.tv is my own website and I certainly do not have the following of these other platforms, but I don't have censorship and I have the truth. I have my archives section where I take documents that I have that corroborate the information that I'm putting out there to let people know what's going on. (44:31) So it's just a way for me to communicate the truth to folks in the seeds of misinformation and disinformation that exists as of late. Unfortunately, this seems to be the way of the future of the world with all of the attacks on freedom of speech. I highly suggest everybody gets a website now. There's really no way to protect your voice in the future without one. (44:55) And living in Alaska, have you looked into the Alaskan triangle? I have, Christina. I've looked into the Alaskan triangle. I've actually been featured on the show, the Alaska Triangle. Season 2 Episode 9. I was a host and they sent me out to catch a can of Alaska to look for submerged, I guess you'll call them unidentified submerged objects. (45:23) It's called S.O's. So that episode aired and oddly enough, the producers of the show edited out everything that I found and made it out like I didn't find anything, which I found really interesting. So I'm very aware of the Alaska Triangle concept. I'm also aware of the television show and I'm also aware of the fact that they're editing out the truth. (45:50) What did you find? I found signs of activity under the water, which is what they wanted me to do, my history and the submarine service and basically just what I know. They sent me out there to locate, to look for sounds of unidentified submerged objects under the water and get recordings. I got them clear as day and they did not present them to the public. (46:15) They presented other sounds and other information and they edited out the truth. I found exactly what they were looking for and they presented a show that showed something else. What kind of sounds did you collect? The sound was exactly like this, Christina. So the sounds that they put on the show, they made it out like it couldn't be heard by the human ear and then it needed to be washed through a sound engineer to see what was going on. (46:45) But the sound that I heard clear as day through the hydrophone and I presented it to both the cameraman and the captain of the boat. We recorded this when we were there and they edited, but this was the sound. Very repetitive, very mechanical, very non-organic and we caught it clear as day. I mean this is what submarines do, this is what sonar techs do. (47:23) They go out in the ocean and they look for sounds exactly like that and then they say that's a boat, that's a this, that's a that and then they shoot at it because they have that much clarity. But for some reason the producers of this show when I found exactly the sounds they were looking for, they decided to omit it from production. (47:43) So that sound that you just demonstrated, do you know what could have caused a sound like that or do you know what the source could have been? Something unnatural, something man made or other than man made. It wasn't a whale, it wasn't a flow. It wasn't any organic sound. It was something mechanical, it was something repetitive, it had frequency. (48:11) It was exactly what everybody who's trained to look for sounds under water for is just trained to look for. That was a hit. That's what they sent me to find. At the time everybody agreed that that's exactly what they sent me to find. That's somewhat disappointing to hear that story where they gave you a job, you did your job correctly but apparently it wasn't good enough or it wasn't what they were looking for. (48:37) Or it's disinformation and production companies do this all the time. It's called a controlled narrative and a limited hangout. They only want so much truth coming out so fast and folks like me bump that narrative because I'm in a rush because we the people deserve to know the truth and I'm tired of all of the rich people controlling the truth. (49:01) That's all it says, it's a television program, there's money behind it, I get it. Yeah, we all want that transparency and it's unfortunate that sometimes money rules over the truth. In your time living in Alaska, which you're still living there now, is that correct? Yes, ma'am. So what have you learned about the area in the sense of mysterious research? Maybe such as the Alaskan pyramid. (49:30) Oh, I've actually gone and traveled over in the area of the Alaska pyramid over in Mount Hays because I'm very interested in it. I've also made some pit stops over to Gukon, Alaska where the harp array is because that's also on my radar. Tesla technology is very important. And I've seen a couple of UFOs here in Alaska. (49:54) There's sightings here all the time. There's some Facebook pages that I follow and the amount of activity for UFOs in Alaska is really off the wall. I've seen stuff out on hikes, on multiple occasions. I've gotten pictures a couple of times. My roommates gotten pictures a couple of times. It's all over the place up here. (50:15) Alaska is just rampant with paranormal activity. The remote viewers from way back when I believe it was Pat Price and Joe Mechanical where the folks that remote viewed underneath Mount Hays, which is where they basically said that there's, I guess, the best way to put it would be almost like an intergalactic airport is supposedly going on there. (50:43) Just now you mentioned harp and on your website you have a, you have multiple declassified documents. One of them being a DARPA report from 1999. So my question is, for the stories that you've encountered or the research that you've done, what is the connection between harp and DARPA? Ooh, my control would be the connection between harp and DARPA. (51:13) There's something known as V2K, which they call voice to skull. And the idea is that they can put voices in your head. You'll start seeing ads soon. I just saw one recently for underwater earbuds, headphones, whatever you want to call them. And it says that it's waterproof and it's the way that this device functions is that it puts a signal from this headband on your head and it goes to the bones in your head. (51:47) And that's where it transmits too. This is V2K tech. They're just doing it with the headband closer and they're selling you the products and now they're profiting off of this technology where they can transmit a sound into your skull. When they say that they're vibrating the bones in your head, it means the parts inside your inner ear drum that can also be done remotely with some really savage high tech. (52:12) So this is what V2K means is they can put a voice in your head from great distance. It doesn't have to be on a headband like they're going to start charging you for. So the other oddity is that they learn from the Stargate program and remote viewing and all these CIA technologies back in the day. (52:31) Not only can they put a thought in your head, so to say, they can also listen to you first and they can put that thought in your head in your own voice. So now it screams of our ancients in the mystery schools of all. There is an old term. They said, "No thyself." Because the technologies nowadays, folks, are just bastardizations of techniques of old. (53:03) And just like way back when a magician could walk past you and like a Jedi, put a thought in your head and say, "These are not the droids that you're looking for." And one would agree. That person that said these droids and the droids you're looking for was saying it to that other person in the voice in their head. (53:23) And that was a technique and it was doable. And they would call it magic. Contemporarily we have technology and it's nefarious. But it can do the same thing. It could just simply say something like, "It's all right. A mask is no big deal. Just put it on." And just like- Is that your voice effectively or is it an implanted voice? If you don't know thyself, if you don't know that these technologies and techniques existed, you're just going to suffer them. (54:00) The biggest thing is definitely to know yourself. You're right. But in this day and age, it's becoming more and more difficult. I mean, we're being fed, entertainment, being on our phones all day, trying to see, "Oh, what does the celebrity like to know what I like? Fashion, colors, foods and things like that?" So now more than ever, it seems to be very difficult. (54:20) And just now I got a little bit ahead of myself. Can you please explain what DARPA is and what harp is? Absolutely. So DARPA is, I'm going to try to get the acronym correctly. It's the defense agency research projects, something or other. Basically, it's the US federal government's ability to experiment in anything, any kind of weapon, any technology, anything that's off the wall, space related, that's what DARPA does. (54:57) DARPA, on the other hand, is a transmitter array. It's basically a phased array transmitter of a whole bunch of Tesla coils, in a way. It's a large-scale Tesla coil phased array system that we have one up here in an area known as "Gakona Alaska." And they refer to it as an ionospheric heater, which first and foremost, by title, when people talk about global warming and it being man-made, I don't know. (55:34) Why don't you ask the people that run harp? Which the ionosphere is the atmosphere. So when they call it an ionospheric heater, maybe ask the federal government why the temperature is rising because they have atmospheric heaters. And they're in their arsenal. So I get that people can say that global warming is going on, climate change is going on, but not under the pretense that you're being presented, folks. (56:01) There's a massive amount of other technology that you're not being presented. Harp being one of them. And then the stuff going on at South Pole being a whole other batch of nefarious technology that makes harp look like a pea shooter. It's very difficult to come up with opinions when you're really not presented all of the information and in many respects in the fields that we research dealing with the paranormal, the supernatural, and even of these more secret type projects as well. (56:34) There's so much information that is swept under the rug and so it's very difficult for us to conclude a full-blown best-apinion ever when we're just not given all that information. That's correct and discernment is challenging nowadays as well because people don't really have the experiences to do that. (56:58) Society has built a whole bunch of specialists now so people don't feel empowered to know things like they used to. Everybody is a specialist now so they feel like, oh well, I only know this one thing. So if somebody else says something, I better just believe them. Well, that's a slippery slope. It really is and one thing that I can definitely blame would be cell phones. (57:24) We're always having all this information at our fingertips but many of us do not utilize it correctly. We could be geniuses but instead we're stuck in this entertainment malaise of just, oh, I want to be pleased. I want to have a good time and be lazy. One in reality, so many of us are given the opportunity to research the things that really catch our interest or that can help humanity in the future. (57:54) You're right. Here's an interesting aspect of society and I'm not, this is an observation. It's an observation of humanity because now we have smartphones. Way back when people used to know things, now they don't. It's obvious. Every time they grab their phone, they identify is not knowing something. (58:16) If you have to grab your phone to look something up, you're proving you don't know it. You have to go look for the information if you knew it, you would say it. That would be being intelligent. Every time somebody grabs their phone to prove something, they're proving how much they don't know something. (58:32) It's a sad state of the world that we're in right now. But this is what everybody does. We have dialogues with people and all of a sudden the phones are involved. And what is that proving? It's proving that somebody in the dialogue doesn't know what they're talking about and has to look it up. (58:49) We didn't use to be this way. We used to be the smart thing, not the device. That is so true. I challenge people to start thinking again, have dialogues without the technology and watch your intelligence grow. 100% agree. Starting gears a little bit. Have you come across stories of the Natinak, the Alaskan Bigfoot? I have heard stories about it myself and I've also heard of a shape shifter which is new to me. (59:25) But I've heard firsthand testimony from people that I can't really discount what they were saying. So yeah, it's very interesting to me this paranormal concept of Alaska. There's a lot going on up here. I certainly can't explain and I'm not quick to throw stones at other people's first hand testimony when that's their experiences. (59:49) Just now you mentioned a shape shifter. Can you go into more detail on that? What stories did you encounter? You got it, Christina. There was a gentleman that I worked with recently was telling me that they were out fishing off some islands here in Alaska in a remote area. They were passing by a relatively remote island and they saw somebody on shore waving them in to come get them. (1:00:15) And the person said, "Oh, look, you know, that's my grandfather over there. Let's go get him." And then somebody else had the were with all apparently to say, "Why would your grandfather be out here on the island? Your grandfather is back in town." They all decided to not go near whatever it was that they saw and then when they went back to town, low and behold, the grandfather was not on the island but was back in town. (1:00:45) So they believe what they saw was one of these shape shifters pretending to be the grandfather. That's kind of scary. It is kind of creepy. I've heard of new stories like that, especially those that are paranormal investigators, this entity will mimic what their loved ones may sound like. And I have so many questions on my hair stories like this. (1:01:10) For instance, these entities that are able to shape shift to a loved one or mimic what a loved one would say, it seems that and this is based off of my limited knowledge that somehow they're able to tap into your thoughts or maybe even your consciousness in order to replicate what you hold dear to you. (1:01:31) So do you have an idea of how that's possible? I would imagine something like that does have to be going on because in that capacity with the boat just simply passing by, I mean, how much time does this thing have to figure stuff out? So either it's ascertaining at the moment or it's somehow ascertained beforehand, that's the only thing that I could think of is really only two possibilities following my own lines of logic and reasoning is that this thing knew something that wasn't communicated to it (1:02:07) directly. That's what I find so interesting. It could also be very well that many of us carry our thoughts, emotions and memories on our shoulders. We're naturally very noisy creatures in the mind. You know, it's very difficult for many of us to have a meditative mindset or to be mindful of it. (1:02:26) So another possibility could be that these entities are just kind of pulling off just the outside of what someone may be possibly thinking, kind of like the trash on the outside of you in a sense when it comes to thoughts. I'm not too sure. I never really thought in depth of it, but just now you're really peaking my imagination on something like this. (1:02:48) I think you're 100% right. I think it's that probably so much more with great ease. Actually, I think that we ourselves have probably fallen from this point that we use to integrate in a similar fashion and communicate things in beyond such energy waves as well. I think that might be what some of this stuff, who publicly was talking about the fall of man is that it could be on that energetic level, you know, like maybe 5D to 4D to 3D type thing and that, you know, we're just, you know, maybe we're at a 3D level and if the 4D (1:03:21) feature comes by, maybe they read every freaking thought in our head. I just no reason that I would think otherwise. It could be that simple for something else, you know, us looking at an ant colony, we kind of feel like we're really smart compared to that and that we could figure out really quickly. (1:03:37) It's probably true. So I imagine, you know, just like every other school yard, there's always a bigger, tougher kid out there. I'm sure there's also a bigger wiser intellect or some ability to engage the environment better than we can that would make us look foolish really fast. That could be the case and something that you just said is imagining, and I'm paraphrasing here and then I'm interpreting it a little bit different, but if we look at an ant hill, we have a totally different perspective. (1:04:06) We can see so much farther than what an ant can see and how they perceive their ant hill. So that could be the same case with these different types of entities. For example, this shape-shifter that you mentioned a little bit earlier, maybe they're able to see a slightly bigger picture that at this point in time in humanity's evolution, we simply cannot do that. (1:04:29) Yeah, I agree. I think that it's, again, techniques potentially from old that maybe some of the mystery schools were trying to keep in our society that we might have fallen from even such graces of their academia, but I think there's a lot of indications in antiquity that show that we used to be a bit more special than we are right now. (1:05:01) That may be the case. Eric, I have one final question for you. For those that want to visit Alaska, what locations would you recommend to visit either for research or for sightseeing? Ooh. Well, Anchorage, Alaska is pretty much the heart of the transportation hub. So they often say that, you know, because in the last-kin terms that Anchorage is the big city, they'll say that if you get to Anchorage is not really Alaska, but Alaska is 20 minutes away. (1:05:39) So I would say for all practical purposes, if folks came to Anchorage, it would be a great base of operations for them to go throughout and see the rest of Alaska. But what folks need to consider is that the state of Alaska is pretty much one-third the size of the lower 48, that the 48 continuous states down south of Canada. (1:06:03) Alaska is huge, so if people really want to come see Alaska, it's not so much where they land that's important. It's a matter of how much time they allot. Alaska is not some place that you can see fast. I really recommend you spend a few weeks up here. It just is what it is. And I know to some people it might seem like a few weeks if traveling is challenging and expensive, but you'll be surprised traveling can be a frugal way of living your life. (1:06:36) And that is my vision for the future traveling United States and hitting all those fantastic hot spots. Eric, thank you so much for being on the show today. Where can people find you online to stay up to date with your research? The best place for them to stay up to date with my research, Christina, would be at deciphering .tv and they can reach me. (1:07:00) There's an email contact there if they have any information to share. That would be really appreciate it. I'm trying to connect the dots with everybody. I do also have a YouTube page where I have the title "Decifering My Experience" where I put some of the more benign stuff out there that the centers don't really care about, but more or less is the website deciphering.tv. 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