This show covers:
- Levelland, Texas Incident 1957
 - Betty and Barney Hill Incident 1961
 - Minnesota UFO Car Incident with Val Johnson 1979
 - Cash-Landrum Incident 1980
 - Knowles Family Incident 1988
 - Edie Meireles' Incident 2011
 
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00:00 - Intro
09:02 - Cars Stalled on Texas Highway
16:24 - Car Stalked by UFO
23:29 - Officer Patrol Car vs UFO
37:10 - The Diamond Ship That Burned
44:10- Family Car Lifted Off Australian Road
55:03 - Brazil's Glowing Orb Damaged Car
01:07:27 - Outro and Credits
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Show Transcript
your vehicle engine dies the lights go out and you're on a remote Road and something's in the sky and it's watching you I'm Cristina Gomez and today we're breaking down real cases about UFOs that don't just fly by they reach down and they touch our world from military records to police files we're Gathering hard evidence of vehicles shutting down electrical Systems Failing and both machines and drivers left with physical marks these aren't speculations these are documented cases backed by multiple (00:37) Witnesses and official investigation the pattern repeats across the globe leaving us with obviously many more questions than answers hello and welcome to this episode of mysteries with a history where you'll be taken on a wild ride into the unknown the strange and the Mysterious like you I have questions and like you I want answers and with each episode together we will PE peel away the layers to look for the truth Jimmy it's good to have you back how have you been you caught me by surprise I I could (01:21) have been doing anything what what what anyway it's so good to be back I am great how are you Cristina doing so good so good we um let's not break tradition okay all right I know I've been gone but my memory is still here okay what happened for you to cover such an important subject uh like we are today with uh cars automobiles engines Motors electron that are affected by UFOs and it makes me wonder did you have an in an encounter did something cruise over your car I wish Cristina got a duly (02:06) four-wheel drive uh Ford F-150 and she's got a step ladder that folds out and she jumps up it's the most ginormous pickup truck she needs that for the fifth wheel trailer that she's going to be Towing around the country but so did is that what happened did did your truck die no it was wasn't me but I came across a story that someone had told me very recently of actually pretty much of what you explained he was driving down the road in the middle of nowhere a remote Road and a UFO hovered Right (02:44) Above It the car stopped and then as soon as the UFO passed the car came back up started working again and I thought there are a handful of cases like this we haven't done a show like that before no we we got to cover it today in in honor of Jimmy being back on today's episode of mysteries with a history fair enough fair enough and um we've got a lot to cover uh this is going to be a packed show um I'm G to make uh two opening quick statements that I'm going to get out of the way on this subject (03:19) number one this tends to be uh around older historical UFO events but I don't believe that that is the case as Cristina just said but the community looks at it that way and the media looks at it that way which is fine but we have to remind everybody Stephen Spielberg had this as a central part of two of his biggest films one of course was Close Encounters of the Third Kind Richard drus Country Road his work truck his pickup truck dies and the craft is over overhead it's one of the most iconic historic greatest scenes in all (04:05) of of Hollywood Cinema we have that right and then if we move forward to Spielberg's The War of the Worlds what happens there right that is the central part that sets up act one in that film Tom Cruz and his kids get the only running car apparently in New York and they are able to escape uh town and start their Journey why and they're driving past cars that have stalled and have failed on the freeway and Roads and so forth they're the only survivors with a car driving out of town this is part of uh (04:51) UFO history and it is represented there and I think it's uh very very important uh to bring all of that up um last night I was reading uh Jay Allen heck's book uh the case for UFOs and in there there are so many and if you go into an older book um Stringfield and whatever kho case after case of cars that stalled so to kick things off the first reported instance of a UFO right causing any sort of em effect on a vehicle was in 1909 yeah a motorcyclist said that his headlight failed as a light passed overhead and after it passed him his (05:47) headlight came back on that was in 1909 Cristina now uh the first case in which an engine stalled was from California in the spring of 1944 uh according to the Appo bulletin from 1968 two School teachers saw a UFO saw a light car stalled that's 1944 the first case in which a car had to be started after a UFO disappeared from the car was in September of 1952 and that was part of the Flatwoods Monster Case by the way right they see the Monster it's a family of four in a car they see the monster car dies and then they had (06:32) to restart it and it only started after the craft left the area so historically this has always been here hasn't it it has it has and yet we're still asking the questions why does it happen so from from your understanding Jimmy You' spoken two hundreds of people you've covered cases so similar to this one what's your speculation on that here's the thing a lot of reference has been to the electrical systems and cars and that the older versions of cars where he had magnetos and he had a distributor cap and and an (07:15) alternator and a battery and a couple of wires that's how an engine ran it was uh susceptible to em and electromagnetic interference this is true but today cars still have to charge their batteries they still have that same basic principle applied to engine design but the cars are also more complex there are so many computers and chips in a car today that you would think that an em interference would be easier to do and that we would have more of it why we don't see uh as much today I think it's the type of crafts we are encountering (07:58) so I think it's electric magnetic for sure but now today I think we have different kinds of craft I think that's an interesting Theory it's the same kind of deal of how throughout the decades more shapes have been prevalent than others you know saucers were really popular in the 40s into the 50s and then people started seeing more cigar shaped craft Delta shaped craft as as the decades progress and there's this idea there's this the that maybe they're evolving similar to how human technology evolves with how (08:36) our trucks have changed over the decades how our airplanes have changed in looks over the decades as well so I think what you had mentioned is interesting and you don't really think about it that often until it's spoken out well when we look at uh I'm going to I'm going to turn things over to you or I can I can take off with this but um I just set things up uh for uh the Loveland uh Texas incident and that case when we talk about UFOs affecting cars this is one of the most documented um uh unbelievable cases in (09:23) in history and every car in this case died everyone and when you look at it uh let me break this down for everybody so you understand I'm not going to talk about the incident itself uh we're talking about cars today but on the evening of November 2nd 1957 it started when two immigrant Farm Workers right uh they call uh Pedro saso uh and Joe Salis called the Levin Police Department to report a UF CL siding and they claim their truck engine died all right as soon as they saw the craft but it continues at 10:55 p.m. a married couple (10:15) driving Northeast of levelin reported that they saw the bright flash of light moving across the sky and their headlights and radio died for three seconds five minutes later Jose Alvarez claimed he met a strange object sitting on the road 11 miles north of levelin and his vehicle's engine died until the object aparted an hour later 12:05 a.m. (10:43) a Texas technological college now Texas Tech by the way um student named nle Wright uh was driving 10 miles east of levelin and his car engine began to sputter um uh the lights on the dash started to jump uh things started discharging and then went back to normal and then the motor started cutting out like it was out of gas the car rolled to a stop the headlights dimmed and for several seconds the lights went out at 12:15 10 minutes later officer Fowler received another call this time from a farmer named Frank Williams he said that he had encountered (11:27) the brightly glowing object sitting on the road and his as he approached it his car lights went out and the motor stopped after that half hour later Cristina Ronald Martin at 12:45 a. and James Long at 1:15 a.m they both reported seeing the lights moving across the road in front of them and both of their engines and headlights died until the object flew away this is documented police calls one after another in levelin so you have to ask yourself what is going on is it the UFO is it electromagnetic it was it done on (12:12) purpose is it just by coincidence and accident I don't know but these reports are all over the place in the 50s and 60s Jimmy today you came with the goods you you came with the timestamps today is awesome I had five weeks I had five weeks to prep five weeks yes you did something else to mention because we're going to be speeding through these because what we're really focusing on as Jimmy I mentioned is how the vehicles are affected some of these cases are well known some of them lesser so but we're focusing on one detail that isn't (12:48) covered as frequently as you would assume but in this case when we're looking at Pedro and Joe Pedro the guy that we're seeing on screen right here they also witness not only their car engine failing but this intense heat coming down on them and their vehicle rocked back and forth as well which we hear that from time to time but it's not as frequent however for today it will be could you imagine I mean I I would be genuinely scared if I'm driving down the road minding my own business just want (13:27) to get home eat dinner and go to bed and then not only your car stopping but then you feel it rocking vibrating shaking back and forth that's enough to beat any cup of coffee for the caffeine that will keep you up at night plus your car is your Sanctuary that's your safe space safe space yeah yeah absolutely uh in in uh in the 1950s one 1960s I'm sorry in oh Ohio again one of the more famous cases was uh the police chase that went into Pennsylvania it involved uh Ohio um uh law enforcement and Pennsylvania four (14:13) different police cruisers chasing this UFO that was shaped like uh an ice cream cone uh one of the police officer said it looked like a football that was cut in half and tipped on its side so it's like a cone shaped right well while in Ohio the police officers had pulled over there was a stalled car in the road there was no driver there but they pulled up to see if they needed some assistance or if somebody got lost in the woods it was just past midnight in Ohio and they just started their shift but this is what happens (14:49) Cristina they get out of the car the first officer is on the right front of the the patrol car the officer that's driving he approach approaches but he sees a light over his shoulder so he turns around and over the woods is this craft this cone-shaped craft it's lighting up everything both of the deputies see it right it stops over their car they freak out you know what they did I'm I'm making this up they jumped in the car rolled up the windows and locked the doors they said that was their safe (15:26) space and they stayed there and till uh the craft went away uh their engine started and then then they began to chase it yeah but that's what they that's what you do your car is your safe space isn't it you don't want that thing lifted up which we've got a couple of cases like that don't we oh yes oh yes it it's pretty scary and there have also been sto well if you look at Moth Man in that case people were hiding in their cars there as well they were rolling up the windows in fear when you hear (16:02) Bigfoot stories they immediately the people immediately run to their car and hope that they marks on the hood right yeah you know what I mean freaky stuff yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but good evidence well that's great evidence and we've got cases like that that we're gonna cover today we do we're gonna go in chronological order and next we're going to touch on Betty and Barney Hill as we St stated we're not covering the whole case cuz I know that you're familiar with it but just the details on (16:35) the cars and and here this took place between September 19th to September 20th of 1961 and this one I mean this is one of the first alien abduction stories that really took notice in the media it it's one that really set a foundation for what the abduction phenomenon is about and more so in this case what really took this story off during that time frame was the interracial couple but when it comes to the evidence that was on the car or or the car being involved in the story Jimmy what happened well I've interviewed Kathleen Martin uh the (17:21) niece of Betty and Barney Hill many times and she has told she was there when all of this went down and I'm talking about the car side of the incident so a after everything happens um they make it home in the morning Betty calls Kathleen's mom Betty's sister and they all drive over they're freaked out flying saucers and and all of this but they then Kathleen says they went out to the car and they saw that there were shiny circles concentric circles by the way which is very bizarre on the cars trunk and that these were new these were (18:13) fresh and Betty and Barney uh then with the rest of the family uh Kathleen's mom uh Betty's sister and Kathleen they were all there when somebody took out a compass and I think it was probably Barney you know who's got a compass probably the man of the house but they moved the compass around the car and the needle was freaking out on the car all right and when they moved it up to the spot then it really went nuts um that the Kathleen described the needle as spinning now this was a witness that morning uh the day after the morning (18:57) after their abduction exper erence Kathleen Martin was there um uh they she said that when they pulled the compass away it would stop and she said she was a witness to that that that is definitely magnetic like the car was magnetized and whatever caused uh the concentric circles that were on the hood of the car possibly something touched it made those designs on on the on the car uh through the paint and magnetically charged the vehicle now I again I can't explain it but Kathleen was a witness to this well not only that but when they (19:45) were driving through the White Mountains of New Hampshire they noticed that these lights in the sky were following their car that's right and like this object just drew closer and closer and they weren't able to make out what they described as kind of like this large spacecraft containing multiple humanoid figures that were visible through the windows in the craft and this craft was following their car now these memories weren't recalled D during an a like during and right after the encounter but it was under (20:26) regression hypnosis that they began to really start pulling out the details on what they witnessed that night well yes yes yes and I think it's important to note here that when they got home um and they woke up the next day what they did remember was everything happening up uh to uh the first encounter of the craft in the middle of uh the street but they remembered seeing it they remembered seeing seeing it in the sky you remember it it following them all right and they later uh had that missing time chunk all (21:08) right two hours yeah about two hours and they didn't realize all they knew is they arrived home much later than they should have um but leading up to that that's what Betty uh said to her aunt uh to her sister uh over the phone it's like we saw a a UFO last night and it was following his home and that's when the family came over and that's when they found the magnetic uh anomaly on the car with again concentric circles were imprinted on the hood uh the trunk of the car and there's also a bunch of other (21:52) evidence as well like uh tears and and kind of like dirt marks on the dress of Betty as well and I think weren't there dents on the car Jimmy um okay so yes there were um I I don't I don't think for the family at the time uh they looked over the whole car and and saw all kinds of things that were wrong with it versus the previous day okay all right so they they noticed all of these things but definitely what stood out to them were the concentric circle designs um on the hood of the car and the compass over (22:37) those concentric circles going nuts and spinning which which just doesn't happen to a compass uh that was uh something that was very very strange the their case um as they revealed more and more Barney remembers um a disturb on the back of the car while he was driving he remembers hearing stuff and hearing things that weren't normal so it seems to me I I think to most researchers that look into this case that yes that craft was behind them was following them and was messing with their car probably trying to get them to pull (23:23) over and ask them about their car insurance right for for a car extended warranty is what they really wanted this I had to this next one is probably the most famous case that people think about when they're talking about UFOs affecting cars and this one took place on in 1979 when Marshall Court Deputy Val Johnson encountered a UFO in Minnesota that caused substantial damage to his Ford patrol car here's an image here that's not it here it is it's in the museum now which is very cool yeah it's a famous car (24:04) today there it sits there it sits as uh as it was the day after the incident the day of the incident there it is that's right so you can see the window shattered AS Val Johnson had described this this spherical metallic ball of light smashing into it it it also ruined th those Radio Jimmy you know what they're called you know on the car you have like that and in see we don't have those anymore so it's just kind of that my vocabulary my jeep has one and I'm from like 1995 no it's brand new but there it (24:51) there it is yeah yeah I have an antenna I love it I'm so proud of it I can't imag televisions using to have antennas need to like kind of move them around to get signal that that's beyond me I actually have two antennas that come out of my head but my headphones pull them back so you don't get to see them on the show dang I had never seen them so disappointed know I I hide them I I wear I wear a lot of hats I'm G to I'm not going to get into thatr St Cristina stump lack of words it does not happen too often yeah so (25:34) let's get back to Val Johnson uh there he is right there this is uh an incredible case it is it is and also he had mentioned that initially he mistook the lights that he was seeing in the sky as an aircraft's Landing lights and then the unidentified light rapidly approached his vehicle at an incredible speed resulting in the sound of breaking glass and an intense white light that overwhelmed Johnson before he lost Consciousness for about 40 minutes and then upon re and right and then upon regaining awareness he immediately radio (26:18) dispatch reporting something had attacked his car not really knowing what to stay what to say so he stated I don't know how to explain it just something strange attacked my car could okay let's let's imagine this just for a moment Jimmy you're on the other side of the dispatch you're the one receiving the calls and one of your men says I don't really know how to explain it but something strange just smashed into my car ruined my car what would be the next step after that statement I'd (26:54) call him out for being a liar and drinking on the job ooh no that's what you would do you would you know it's I to somebody listening to that uh in law enforcement is is listening to somebody's excuse for damaging their patrol car and they've got to come up with a story right I hit a deer you know some you know what I mean you just make something up and that's what you would think he reported um uh this was in uh step Minnesota everybody and it's 2: am. (27:31) in the morning anything happens you know early in the morning and law enforcement is is right there with it but he says uh he saw the beam of uh light in front of him on the road and that the beam came towards him the other thing that you brought up the landing lights when you see an aircraft approaching you and it's got its Landing lights on you don't see at first the red and green navigation lights you don't see those because the white light is so bright but if you look long enough or as it gets (28:12) closer to you your eyes adjust and you see those navigation lights all right he didn't see them and that's when he kind of freaked he's like wait a minute there this is a ball of light without navigation lights and so um it it comes up to him and lights up his car that's what he said lights up well it lights up his car it smashed his windshield it bent multiple antennas it it broke a red emergency light on the roof shattered one of the headlights and there's even a noticeable dent on the hood it goes It (28:50) Go it goes further and remember he said that this bright light was so bright he couldn't see anything he could only hear what was going on right he was listening to Glass breaking right and so uh he's unconscious now for 39 minutes and when he woke up this is the dun dun dun wristwatch isn't working and his vehicle's clock stopped for 14 minutes the windshield yep windshield shattered headlights broken Red emergency light is uh damaged and of course his radio antenna is bent so after this happened and the (29:43) media takes a whiff of it as we're seeing a newspaper clipping on screen right here A Center for UFO studies in Chicago went ahead and did an investigation on this and they discovered several unusual Clues that elevated this case above the typical reports first being The credibility of the encounter was so significant that Newsweek magazine ranked it among modern history's most compelling and credible UFO Encounters in a 2019 retrospective article and Johnston initially participated in media coverage including an appearance on ABC's Good (30:26) Morning America but eventually withdrew from public attention as the scrutiny began began causing strain on his family relationships and this is Sim in some way similar to the Lonnie Zamora incident where you have a policeman coming forward sharing the story the media grabs it but then he was labeled as the UFO policeman right and in this case for Val Johnson and there and there's so many very similar stories like his where he is just chewed up and spit out by the media by the overall general public some believing him many (31:15) not believing him but this case is so important and it's so remarkable because there is physical evidence on the car and we have the person to tell tell the story as to what happened and the as you had mentioned Jimmy and as zenza Bill had mentioned in the live chat the clock stopped working on a stopwatch and the cars clock stopped working as well so to get those accurately to click them at the same time to stop is possible but it's difficult why would a policeman put his credentials on the line to lie about this whole UFO (32:02) situation if anything it did him a lot more harm than good yeah you you brought up the center of uh for UFO studies and that's Jay Allen heck you know so they came in and they and I I brought that up earlier um I was reading his book last night I'm in the middle of it I've read it many times it's just a great book uh the case for UFOs and uh the other part about this and heik talks about this in his book what is key here is who are the witnesses do we have more than one witness Jay Allen heinik said look if I (32:45) had he had two sightings he had one of a craft of of an object and one of a light but he said both times he saw them by himself there's no sense in him reporting it and who who reports a UFO case and especially one step further who reports a UFO case when they are by themselves that's an important part about all of this and so and he brings up talks about police officers a lot law enforcement are people too they are people just your average citizen that reports a case you're subject to do everything that comes at you you are and (33:32) it's rough police law enforcement military we hold them to a whole another standard right air airline pilots we hold them to another standard and the ridicule that comes to them career ending um it's a different type of of focus that that comes upon them and they are people so maybe they don't want to report these things and when it comes to Val Johnson and you you report something like this you're alone and your car gets damaged right it's not a good look no most people would say you're alone your (34:17) car gets damaged you got to make something up right why not blame it on UFOs you know blame it on Bigfoot and that's that's what happened to V like I said law enforcement are people too and you are how much can you take don't know but for Val he had enough he had to back out he did now as for today the the car is now in a museum it's in the County Historical Society Museum in Warren Minnesota where it has become simply known as as just the UFO card like that is the title and the museum has embraced their pretty unusual (35:05) piece of local history selling UFO car merchandise including t-shirts and stickers and things to put on the back of your car as well because if you can sell it why not right and in this case this is one of the main things that brings this small town or in Minnesota to its Fame I if if I were to be in inota I would go to this Museum just to see the car and at least take one selfie with it yeah over the years over the years I've seen so many videos and and stuff on this car and and where it sits in the museum and I've always thought (35:43) man I want to go I want to go and I want to go check that out because it's there it's like Betty Hills dress right Betty and Barney Hills car right I you know Bob lazar's Corvette I want to see that too as well but anyway oh yeah yeah yeah yeah but uh here it is uh did it happen is it a case of evidence uh does this represent that I don't know it's a it's a great case and and Val Johnson uh has always stuck to it and also before we move on this case had a little bit of everything didn't it right it had a (36:24) shiny orb uh spotted in the sky police on patrol uh lights up the car missing time um uh clocks have uh failed and then of course the damage to the car this this case had it all it did and that's why the media probably paid so much attention to it during that time frame because of all of the pieces of information all the details and the evidence as well and then his background of him being a policeman it's like how could you avoid the case how how could you avoid the story in the news of course you're going (37:03) to read it it's going to be it's going to be on the main page probably but this next one that we're going to be covering also gained a lot of traction in the media and that is the cash Landrum incident Jimmy tell us about this one um I I uh well okay no I'm going to hand this off to you um I didn't know that we were going to cover this uh today but just let me say this this case was uh not only uh about a UFO incident uh the the the craft whatever they were uh black helicopters we've got all of that but (37:46) we've got uh sickness uh the the stuff that happened the burns um on the family uh of course the UFO side of it and the car side of it and it affected this family forever again like the loveling case to me one of the most uh supported and strongest UFO incidents in history and this one took place December 29th 1980 in Dayton Texas and as Jimmy had mentioned it resulted in pretty severe physical consequences for the three Witnesses being Betty cash Vicky Landrum and her seven-year-old grandson Colby Landrum as they were just driving (38:32) home like any other day on um State Road 1485 and there they noticed a pretty unusual light above the tree line initially just like with Val Johnson they mistook it as an aircraft but then they soon realized that they were observing something way more extreme than just your average your average aircraft the witnesses encountered a very large diamond shaped craft I think uh here's one here's a drawing of it on screen created by a newspaper and it hovered directly above the road just ahead of them and then the (39:14) object emitted a very intense fiery exhaust with visible flames shooting downward while producing a distinctive beeping sound so then Betty cash sto the vehicle as they were confronted by this strange object and then the heat radiating from the craft was so extreme that the Craft's dashboard the car's dashboard began to visibly melt so they say providing this very interesting visual for the witnesses but then on top of that as Jimmy had mentioned black helicopters were seen everyone everyone of the Witnesses in the car got severely (40:03) sick one of them had what kind of looked like radiation Burns they attempted to talk to the military in Texas and they were received no information from them as to as asking questions of is this yours is this your craft like you hurt me I want to sue you kind of vibe no that no that's exactly what they said uh yeah they they were looking for who was responsible now I'm not going to make light of this Cristina I don't want to sound like I'm making a joke but that family was toasted there the burns and the physical (40:48) stuff that they went through as a as a mother and a grandmother you're going to want to hold somebody responsible for that they saw the helicopters they went to the Air Force and they got shut down they were they were they were roasted it was I I just can't imagine going through that well they also experienced severe nausea uncontrollable vomiting diarrhea weakness and Burning Sensations across their skin and some radiation poisoning as well but Betty cash this lady right here suffered the most severe effects (41:30) which required hospitalization as her conditions rapidly deteriorated medical records documented their uh her symptoms extensively showing physical injuries that couldn't be easily dismissed of like oh you just have a little bit of a fever or something like that so both cash and Landrum experienced persistent health problems for the remainder of their lives with Betty eventually passing away exactly 18 years later on December 29th 1998 and Vicky Landrum survived until 2007 but continued to suffer from Health (42:12) complications that she attributed to her encounter yeah and and here's if anybody out there and I have if you have ever experienced uh sun poisoning you've been out all day in the sun you get burnt and and then the next day you get the after effects of that because it's radiation your body goes through trauma but disorientation nausea your body is just reacting to that well it'll eventually pass but that's not what happened to the family okay it didn't pass so I think that it was very apparent to to the (42:58) government and to everybody else that was uh involved with this case that they got a heavy dose of radiation and this is lifelong lasting effects that's what happened the government steps in pays for the medical bills but said nothing happened we we didn't do it and they never they never they never uh took things a step further what what you want you want somebody to say they're sorry you want somebody to say okay it was us but no the government never did that but they did pick up the medical bills at least that part is nice but (43:44) when they witnessed these black helicopters surrounding this diamond shaped craft of course the the first initial idea is this all must be theirs and then when they didn't confess to it for for their entire lives for cash cash and Landrum obviously it's incredibly frustrating this next case that we're covering is here's how the craft looked this next case that we're covering might have to be one of the freakiest ones if I were to be honest with you it's and this one is not in the United States this one is in Australia (44:25) in the year 1988 very specifically this took place January 20th 1988 when the nolles family experienced in this case what would be become one of Australia's most widely discussed UFO encounters while they were just in this very remote area of of Aust
            
            
                            
                            
                            
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