Ex Raytheon Contractor Eric Hecker Reveals Shocking Info

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Eric, welcome to Shifting the Paradigm. How are you today? >> I am doing fantastic, Christina. Thank you so much for having me on your show today. >> I'm pretty excited for those that may not be familiar with your work or research. What do you want the audience to take away from today's interview? >> Oh, boy, that's a very interesting and loaded question, but I will get right to the point. (00:34) I want the audience to understand that what is going on down in Antarctica and the South Pole station specifically is not what they're being told. There is very high technology, which is contemporary rarely being referred to as directed energy weapons systems, stuff that we see in the news that the ramifications of the application of these weapons is referred to as Havana syndrome and everybody's seeing that in the news as of late. (01:13) But this is the weapons platform that provides those symptoms. When the government is talking about their employees suffering from Havana syndrome, it analogues to them saying that their employees are suffering from bullet wounds. So they're discussing the problem, or I should say the symptom, but not the delivery mechanism. (01:35) So what I'm discussing with the world is the delivery mechanism that Havana syndrome is a directed energy weapons result. So the government is talking about Havana syndrome and I'm talking about the delivery mechanism. Where does Havana syndrome come from is not something the government wants to talk about. (01:58) But there's a new level of warfare going on on this planet. That's what people need to learn about. And we're going to get a little bit more into that, a little bit later, but first is kind of start off with your background. You grew up in Leventon Town, Long Island, New York and this town was specifically built in mind for post-World War II veterans back in the late 40s into the 50s and you were born in the 70s. (02:28) So how did growing up around a town filled with war veterans shape your world view as a child? Well I guess it probably had more to do with a guiding hand. It appears that Leventon Long Island being the first suburb of the United States of America. Like you said for post-World War II veterans, it appears that there were other programs that just continued in this environment and we're learning about things nowadays, notice the Stargate program, which was a remote viewing program and things like this were being (03:04) applied to elementary school level children like myself back in the late 70s, early 80s for myself and then other generations both foreign aft of when I was involved with such programs. Can you explain what the Stargate program is and what they did to you in order for you to come up with the conclusion that you were a part of the program as a child? Absolutely, Christine. (03:33) The Stargate program was a function of the CIA and they started to want to study consciousness and what that really meant and they were working off of a book by a gentleman named Eatsok Ben Tog. His book was called Stalking the Wild Pendulum on the Mechanics of Consciousness and it was this book as well as the practices of the Monroe Institute which was started by Robert Monroe and it was the CIA's basis for consciousness studies that the Stargate program got into remote viewing and they were working with both adults and children both knowing and unknowingly (04:17) to basically, I guess, just working in the science of, in time travel technically. I mean because they were getting out of body is one way of putting it that the ability for a person to have information is normally understood to come from somewhere but what the CIA was learning in the Stargate program is that it was possible for somebody to know something without really having a reason to know it. (04:47) If they didn't have any direct experience in their life, if they weren't taught anything about a topic, they could still definitively be right on something and this was blowing the minds of the folks over at the CIA when they were being presented. The expertise of folks like Ingo Swann and the remote viewers from the time period that the CIA was tapping to start these training programs, the paradigm was shifting back then that consciousness had a tangible value and the CIA didn't really care so much to really (05:22) understand consciousness as they cared a lot on how to use it up until the point where some people would say that they were abusing it. Going into a little bit more depth with your childhood experience, you are enrolled in a Catholic school from kindergarten till about the eighth grade where different experiments took place such as learning to remote view in a library. (05:51) Can you walk us through some of the most memorable tasks that you endured? I can but it is still kind of big. I can give you a general overview of what the library remote view experiences was like. More or less they would first draw us out from the classroom and they would pump our egos as children. They would tell us, you know, you're so smart, you're so smart, you're so smart, they really wanted us to feel exceptional and we absolutely did. (06:19) Our egos were solidly boosted. We thought we were something special. When we got to the library, basically the first thing that they did is that they administered eye drops to us and they would caution us, you know, to tilt our head back, they would put a tissue by the corner of our eye and warn us to stay still so that it wouldn't get on our uniforms and stain our uniforms. (06:41) Apparently it was a staining solution and we certainly knew in the strict regiment to Catholic school that we were in that staining our uniforms was verbok and then you get in trouble. So, I was basically listening to my father and this was news to him again, no idea that we were being administered eye drops in the library when I was a child. (07:00) So this was unbeknownst to him and unapproved. So that is going on behind closed doors, folks pay close attention to that aspect of reality. But with that being said, they would give us eye drops and then proceed to run us through what I now know is the motions of the Monroe Institute Remote Viewing Protocols. (07:25) When I was a child, they were not being forth with in our direction and they didn't tell us exactly what we were up to so it seemed very bizarre the activity. But they were going through the motions of the removing process and they were working us as remote viewers. Have us do the the integrand basically which was just squiggly line on the paper and then utilizing that line as a tool and being guided, we had handlers at the table and they would ask us questions and write down our answers and from our perspective they seemed very benign (08:06) but that is how these remote viewing teams work oftentimes. So I didn't necessarily know what they were asking me questions about. They could say something like, do you see trees or mountains and out answer the question I see trees. I wouldn't know why they were asking me the question but it mattered to them. (08:30) And apparently my ability to see and answer those questions had some level of accuracy because they continued to bring me in there and utilize me for these remote viewing programs. And was it all the students in the school that went through these tests or was it only a select few? For my understanding it was a select few that was being treated the way that I was in the library. (08:56) I do not want to discount the processing of children in this equation though I believe that I was processed as a child in a peculiar way. I believe that our children are going through a grinder of process that the other children that weren't in the library for the process that I was going through were probably being processed in some other capacity because their standardized tests said that they were capable of doing some other thing. (09:24) I think the people of the world need to know that our children are being not handled in a way that they would approve of when they let them go to school every day. You said that you spoke to your father not too long ago about this. It must have been way after you got out of school and all of this. And his expression to my understanding was it was kind of like shocked but also stating this is not what I wanted for my child. (09:49) Is there anything else that you spoke about with your father in relation to these experiments? Oh, absolutely. There were times in this same school that we were removed from the premises for what we were told were retreats which are supposed to be wholly endeavors and that was the pretense. And it turned out we were being brought to a different site on Long Island that has since been knocked down. (10:27) The property was previously called Ineshvada which is Galic and that I believe was Galic for Long Island and at the time the house was built it was the fourth largest house in the United States of America built by the Brady family and they were very connected with the Jesuits and the Jesuits are very connected with child abuse. And we used to get bust to this Ineshvada property on Long Island under the pretense of it being a wholly retreat. (10:51) And the vast majority of children that were being bust to this property were probably getting some cover story of it being some prayers and stuff for the day. But a certain portion of us were being siphoned off from the herd of children there for the day and we were brought to different quarters and what we were involved with what is now referred to as satanic ritual abuse and I was taken with boys from my school and we were met in areas with girls from other schools and we were made to perform in front of rooms of adults. (11:28) And for those that have gone through a type of trauma in their life such as this one, what advice do you have for them to overcome it? Well the truth, it's okay, it's all right. Pretty much this has almost happened to almost everybody out there but the problem is is that we have these mechanisms to push this stuff in the backs of our minds. (11:55) This is how Mother Nature protects children. It's very natural. So what people need to do is just start to get very comfortable with the nature of who they are. And if things happen to you that were odd when you were a kid just communicate them. So it's not that hard actually. You'll find that there's a lot of folks out there that weren't particularly treated well as children and the best thing that we can do as aspiring adults is to do the right things for the kids out there and break this chain. (12:28) There's a lot of stuff going on on this planet that's just not right and it impacts the kids negatively. It does and you said to tell the truth, speak the truth to whom? To everybody that you need. This is not a conversation that anybody should be ashamed of. This is stuff that should be conversational and topical. (12:49) Learning how to help the kids for the benefit of the kids on any given day is a great conversation for anybody in humanity. So if we can't discuss the things that are currently detrimental to children or have been systemically detrimental to children, you know, I mean, what kind of human beings are we? It goes so deep into our DNA and it flows through our blood to always take care of our young and for those that don't, it really does shock me. (13:21) Well you ended up using all of these childhood experiences as your strength. How have your experiences influenced your research today? My experiences I guess I would say have influenced my research in this so far is that I know they're so original to me. So I feel obligated to express them that if I feel if not me, then who? You know, the stuff that I've seen has been so odd and off the wall that if I don't communicate my experiences to folks, I really, I honestly feel the world is going to be in harm's way. (14:03) I've seen too much danger and precarious circumstances. People talk about nowadays like black hats and white hats and stuff like that. And I guess I got to seriously just throw the white hat on and start screaming from the hills that I've seen stuff that the bad people are up to, you know, this is my anardic experience in South Pole. (14:22) I'm trying to let folks know that there's bad stuff out there beyond their comprehension currently. So my experiences motivate me to share the truth because I'm aware of a truth that's not being told. You just mentioned black hats and white hats. What does that mean? That's, I guess, contemporary terminology with all of the factions that are battling right now. (14:49) You know, I know a lot of folks think that it's as simple as Democrat and Republican but boy, I wish it was that simple. There's a lot of stuff going on. There's good people in one side, there's good people in the other side, there's bad people both ways, there's people all over the place. (15:03) So the simple terminology, I think, for the baseline, we the people is that every faction has good people in bad in it and the black hats represent bad people and the white hats represent hopefully good people. And there's an idea that the white hats need to, I guess, in a way infiltrate some of the more nefarious aspects of black hat tree so that we can figure out what's going on and mitigate those problems. (15:35) So that's kind of where I look at my experiences at the South Pole Station. Certainly there's a fistful of people that have gone down there but nobody's really come out of there with the documentation that I have and the statements that I have. And to me, that's just a testament to everybody else seems to just be very well compartmentalized. (15:58) So let's get into your experience with Antarctica. It's kind of a funny story getting into it. So in 2010, you were having difficulty finding work in New York as a plumber. So you began to look outside of the area. And there was one application that was addressed to be in Colorado and turned south. (16:16) That was just the hiring office. But the actual job was in Antarctica. I mean, that's a rather crucial detail that they seem to deliberately leave out. So absolutely. I mean, I know that was insane. When you found out there was vacancy in Antarctica, what made you want to go? That's a very big difference compared to Colorado. (16:44) You could have applied for any other job in your area. So why did you decide to go to the South Pole? The easy answer is just that I never wanted to go to the South Pole. There were literally no other jobs at the time. There was only two applications in the whole country that I applied to. There was no one hiring. (17:05) That was what the current administration had done to the economy at the time. And so I got notification from the hiring facility in Colorado that the position was actually in Antarctica. And I instantaneously was like, I don't want anything to do with that. And I went to the other position that I applied to. (17:27) And I tried pushing harder in that direction to get that job. And it didn't pan out. And obviously long story short, I wound up spending a year at the South Pole Station, not because I had a desire to, but it was because it was the only corporation on the face of the earth at the time that was willing to cut me a check. (17:48) So as soon as you got accepted, what was going through your mind during that moment, or even when you were getting on the plane to your new home? What were you feeling? What were you thinking? It was wild. For starters, I mean, being on Long Island in New York in the summertime trying to plan to get winter stuff for South Pole was rather challenging. (18:12) But beyond that, when I started getting into the flights and the training, I mean, they first brought us from, I went from New York to Colorado to pick up on some training modules and things like that before they transitioned us further down South. It was wild. They were sending us with a whole bunch of people transit in kind of in the same direction. (18:31) There was other people from the United States and Arctic program appropriately titled. So all of us, other program folks were headed down South. We went to LAX, then we went to Auckland, New Zealand, and then we got to Christchurch, New Zealand, which was amazing. Christchurch, New Zealand is beautiful. And we got hung up there for a few days before we went further south. (18:54) Oh my goodness. Eric, there's a break coming. We'll be right back. Welcome back to "Shifting the Paradigm." Whitney is Eric Hacker. On your website, you shared the UAP preliminary report that was released in June of last year. What were your thoughts on the UAP hearing that happened on May 17th in comparison to the report released last year? They continued, "Farse. (19:25) " No truth is going to come from any direction associated to the United States federal government. It is not their job to tell you the truth. They've been lying to you for decades. They will continue to lie to you. That's what's going on. There's all kinds of supposed whistleblowers coming out of the direction of the U.S. (19:47) federal government. Oddly enough, these supposed whistleblowers used to be paid to lie to you. Now we're being told they're being unpaid to tell you the truth. Boy, what a bunch of hierarchy that is. During your one year stay in Antarctica, you saw some kind of fireball in the sky. What happened? That's a great question, Kristina. (20:18) I didn't know 100% at first, but I've learned correctly since. I was walking back doing my rounds. I have to go to all these different outbuildings and check on things as part of my daily routine. I was walking back to the elevated station from what we call the dark sector, which is where there's a bunch of science telescopes and things like that that I was checking on. (20:41) The weather can be sometimes when you're walking around is that there can be snow blowing up from the ground up until just about eyeball high top of your head. As I was walking back towards the elevated station, the weather conditions were that way. I was trying to just lift my gaze up a little bit to see if maybe I can see over the snow to get a glimpse of the elevated station to see how much further I had to walk. (21:12) As I had lifted my head out of this fuzz of the snow blowing by looking now into the clear sky from my left, which at the time was what we would call grid north, which is the direction that the elevated station faces. From grid north, I was seeing this giant flaming fireball zipped across the sky at the south pole over the elevated station. (21:42) I could see like these craggly marks on it. I could see the flames. I could see there was a trail behind it. There was pretty much a flame, which I would say like almost like one third of the smoke trail and then the rest of the two thirds was smoky. But this whole thing shot across the sky from my far left all the way to my far right, which is unobstructed view. (22:06) It's just flat ice there at the south pole and I can't even begin to imagine the distance from horizon to horizon how fast this object went and it went pin straight without deviation. It didn't go from up to down. It went from a height that was relatively low altitude straight across my view and all the way out to the horizon. (22:28) At the time in my brain, I was thinking, wow, that's insane. That was like a freaking planet sized meteor or something that just ripped through the atmosphere. Since then, I've learned that what I saw is a type of UFO on the list of types of UFOs. I didn't know that there was a flaming ball type UFO at the time that I witnessed it. (22:58) My understanding of UFOs at the time was like a flat disc with a glass dome on the top and flashy lights and two green guys waving at you. My brain wasn't really at that idea that this is a known UFO shape. I was thinking of it as just the coolest largest meteor that could possibly, I guess, somehow make it through the atmosphere completely intact. (23:27) You touched on the environment of Antarctica. What was it like to step foot on the icy land for the first time? Interesting. The first time I stepped on the ice at the South Pole Station, we had just dropped in a C-130 Hercules. They had opened the rear door, dumped all of our gear off the back while we were in motion. (23:55) It was a pretty wild landing. All these air force pellets were just launching out the back of the plane as we were on the ski way. So that was pretty uncommon. We didn't even know we were on the ground yet at the time we had such a soft landing. But then upon exiting the herc, this was actually an event for me. (24:14) There's an airman at the Portwatch door. And as we're getting let out, the propellers for the plane are still at idle speed, which is enough to make you, you know, mince me. But as you walk out the door, the airman turns to me and he goes, "Make a right." Which at the time I found rather insulting because it was like, "Did you think that I was going to walk into the propeller?" So that was my first step into Antarctica. (24:48) As I felt slightly insulted that the airman thought that I was dumb enough to walk into the props. So he felt obligated to tell me to make a right. The reason why I ask about the environment is from an outsider's perspective. It's pretty brutal. And then we had your own, practically, what you would consider a UFO sighting. (25:11) So there are those that believe that Antarctica has their own alien bases and a lot of secrets. What are your thoughts on that? I agree 100% actually. I don't doubt that all possibility exists always. I think Antarctica has a rich history of nefarious activities and factions involved. I want all kinds of studies and attention to be put down onto the seventh continent. (25:45) I think it's a very important conversation piece that not enough people are talking about. I think there's a lot of misinformation. I think there's a lot of disinformation. But I think we need to get to the facts of the matter. I think there's a lot going on down there. I think that Admiral Bird went down there and learned a lot. (26:04) I think that we had operation deep freeze going on for quite some time. I have worked with quite a few folks myself, one of which is John Warner IV. He's the son of John Warner III, former senator of Virginia. He passed away this past year. But before passing away, he let his son know that in his previous role as secretary of the Navy, which put him in charge of operation deep freeze down in Antarctica, that there was a secret submarine base and that the submarines were down there under the ice. (26:44) This is the United States Navy. This is the former secretary of the Navy. And when his son asked him what these submarines were doing down there, his father stated space operations. So this is a big deal that a lot of folks, you know, there is a lot going on with the UFO and the UAP community. But the reality is is that only the government can temporarily is making this a new conversation because they have been forced to stop lying about it. (27:21) But now that they are showing up to the table, they are showing up behind everybody else in the conversation because they are not being forth with. The only thing that's changed in the disclosure community because of the government is that the doors have been left open and unlocked. Everybody is waiting for the government to speak truth and they are never going to. (27:45) They simply just left the doors unlocked for the rest of the truth speakers to come through because the other people don't have liability. The government does. The government can't speak the truth. They are too liable. Where can people get the information to know more about Antarctica? Are they able to decipher the truth from the fiction? They should start with people who have direct first hand experience would be my understanding. (28:13) I mean, why would you listen to somebody tell a story about something that they've never experienced when you have the option to choose somebody who has had the experience? I find that wildly interesting. I mean, myself, I spent a year at the South Pole Station. I see a lot of people talking about what's going on in Antarctica. (28:34) And I find it very interesting because to me, it's my home. It's my family. I've been there. And I think Christina, you would find it really funny if people started talking about your home and your family if they've never been in your house. A little bit earlier, you mentioned Admiral Burr. (28:57) And he's pretty important in the history of Antarctica. Tell us about him. Well, Admiral Burr basically did some of the best first reconnaissance down in Antarctica and South Pole, especially by his flyovers and the such. And a lot of his crew, for example, there was a gentleman by the name of Boyd Berkner, who went on to continue a lot of the peculiar science that was going on in Antarctica. (29:27) And Lloyd Berkner went on over to Brookhaven National Labs. And that situation seems to be very CIA-connected. So it seems that Admiral Burr discovered something very important when he went down there. He went down as the leader. So now Burr was a researcher at this point. He was not an Admiral by US Navy Commission. (29:55) He was a civilian researcher at this point who was put to task of being in charge of a military fleet again under the false pretenses of it being research. Apparently when Burr's expedition went down to Antarctica, they wound up engaging with some unfriendlys, getting their fleet decimated, and then their mission classified. (30:20) So when they came back, nobody was really allowed to talk about what occurred, but they came back with a fraction of the fleet that they left with. Can you go into a little more detail on that? How did their craft get fractured? You got it. So there's a researcher by the name of Brad Olson, who I've met at some conferences, and he covers the topic very well if people want to get more facts because I'm a horrible teacher. (30:49) I'm a better student. But Brad Olson is a greater orator on the topic. But effectively when the American faction went down to Antarctica, they encountered unfriendlys, which are believed to have been a Nazi faction that has the technology of anti-gravity available to them at that time. And that Burr's fleet was actually, like they said, some of the ships were cut into by the technology that they came across. (31:24) So it was really that they were outgunned, outmatched, and just it didn't do well for them. They got decimated. Yeah, and Antarctica has a really fascinating history, a lot of very interesting stories, but also the landscape is pretty interesting. During your time there, did you ever visit the bloodfalls? No, I did not. (31:48) I did not spend much time on the cost. I've seen videos of that and it looks very cool, but my time, I spent 366 days straight in Antarctica with, I would say, 12 hours ish on the front and back end. I spent on the coast at McMurdo base, but the rest of it I spent at South Pole proper. So you actually answered my next question about McMurdo. (32:17) For those that aren't familiar with this landscape, why is it so fascinating? It is magnificent decillation was the term used in the lunar program I forget by which astronaut. But I would say that South Pole pretty much is the exact same thing. There's nothing there. And it is in that that it's magnificent. (32:48) There's nothing on the ground. It is just flat ice. There's not a peep. There's not a sound. If there's no wind on a cold day in the winter, when there's no wind, I could walk from building to building. And if I stop, there is no noise. And I could hear my blood circulating in my body. That's how quiet it was around you. (33:12) The amount of silence about you, there's nothing else to hear. I mean, your body, it's amazing. It's an amazing experience at the South Pole to have a different understanding of yourself, your body, everything about you. These are the odd things that you learn. So yes, walking three quarters of a mile from one building to another in the darkness of winter at the South Pole on a day with no wind, it is so quiet. (33:42) You hear your blood circulating. Your heartbeat is loud in you. There's nothing else. It is sensory deprivation beyond one's comprehension. So when you first moved there, how did that make you feel? Just not really being able to hear anything. That came later on in the winter time. I was first there in the summer time. (34:09) It was very noisy in the summertime. The station was flush with activity. We had C-130 Hercules coming and going constantly. And even if they weren't coming and going, they were parked and they were idling. The airmen were terrified of turning the planes off and getting stuck there so they didn't. (34:30) The Jamesway's tents that we slept in in the summer season were right next to the ski way that I had gotten so acclimated to having a flight line of airplanes idling next to me when I was sleeping that when the winter season switched and I got moved to the elevated station, I couldn't sleep because it was so quiet in there. (34:52) I was begging to have a plane parked near me again. In some cases that can kind of play with your sanity. And I don't think people realize that. What about for yourself? Did you realize anything about yourself that you didn't or what did you learn during your stay? Christina, doing a year at the South Pole Station is a challenge of sanity. (35:20) There's no question to be asked on that. They gave us psychological evaluations before, during, after. It is a taxing environment physically and mentally, a thousand percent. They were very challenging mental moments for me there when I was there approximately the six month mark. I was having difficulties remembering things from off the ice. (35:48) It was very challenging. I was thinking in my head that the six months that I had been there was already feeling like forever. And if six months feels like forever and I have six months to go, it was like, whoa, I have forever to go, eh? So then my next question would be, what helped you persevere when you were there? Personal interactions and human contact, so to say, being human. (36:20) The sensory deprivation like I mentioned before is off the walls. There's nothing going on. Take every joy that you have in life right now, put it on a list and remove it in that South Pole. What made us get by was creativity and the desire to. We were trained in certain psychological understandings of morale prior to departing. (36:49) We were trained to pay attention to each other, to care for each other in a more formal way. Then most people are accustomed to because it was both a job and a way of life. And we understood that once those planes left and there was only 49 souls left at South Pole Station to fend for each other, that's it. (37:14) Whether you like these people or not, you're going to figure it out and you're going to just care for each other and make this happen. So there was a lot to be said for the mentality of it and just the desire. So we would make events. We would host parties. You would just take it upon yourself to say, hey, this Friday night, this is going to be a dance party in the TV lounge instead of regular activities and you put up posters and you make things happen and people just took it upon themselves to make it a community. (37:50) It's really community building stuff and having a desire to care about your neighbor. And before you're arrival there or during, did you have to go through any type of training like psychological training or do you think that your childhood experiences of being a part of the Stargate program somewhat prepared you for your one year? I think there's a lot to be said for the programs that I was involved with as a child that had led me in this direction for sure. (38:23) I feel kind of pre-selected in a way. But with that being said, there was also a fistful of other training. We were given first responder medical training. I was sent to a firefighter school to learn how to do industrial firefighting because I took that role on at the station as well. I was a, every time the fire alarms went off, I was the first person to figure out what was going on in full SCBA and stuff like that as well. (38:49) So besides plumbing, I was a firefighter there. I also had medical response training that we had to go through and then we also as a crew were given like psychological, malrow boosting training. We were given as well to pay attention to where people's brains were at and how they were feeling. Agai